Asian American Romance: 03/11/10

RE: [asianamericanromance] Re: My 25 cents worth

So I curious.

What made you choose the woman that you did over all of the others that you wrote to?

Did you ever meet in person the other girls you wrote to?

Good question, Khwan.

Fate?

The hand of God?

Deux ex machine?

Who knows what any of all the Odd Gods of the Universe have in store for us.

Id our future truly in our own hands?

I had, for a long while, this desire to visit Thailand.

One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster
The bars are temples but the pearls ain't free
You'll find a God in every golden cloister
And if you're lucky then the God's a she
I can feel an angel sliding up to me

One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble
Not much between despair and ecstasy
One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble
Can't be too careful with your company
I can feel the devil walking next to me

As before: I had given up on dating life as we know it and hate it in North America.

I paid to get these catalogues and saw this one photo of a smiling lady and wrote.

Actually; I sent my 1^st letter (just photocopied) to maybe 30 gals.

The ladies from the Philippines; without a doubt: every one of them

sooner or later wanted money, help or changed their story significantly.

Single virgins mysteriously just happened to have 3 and 4-year-old kids.

Their birthdays would change and they would need a Gucchi watch.

Or; cash was much easier to send, if you don’t mind.

Anyways: I digress:

After writing to my (now) wife for about 6 months:

I had some vacation time & hopped a plane (was living in Hawai’i by that time).

Part of me wanted to see if it was all for real or just some kind of deal where a kind

of assembly line of (who knows) men and/or women were just writing letters to unsuspecting fools like maybe me.

And then: Bangkok! Whoooooooooooo Eeeeeeeeeee! Yikes!

I’ll let your imaginations run wild, my little listeners.

Not too wild, now: keep it in the Restricted ratings; don’t be going off into XXX land.

So; from a hotel in BBK; I called her up.

We met at what we thought was the airport, but; made the same mistake and ended up at the same place anyways.

Great minds think alike, right?

Or: fools seldom differ.

Either way (again: the hand of God?); we met.

I was truly impressed with her family and their closeness.

Entirely disparate from what I had come to expect from my family.

I made up my mind right there and then to become a part of that family; do whatever it took.

I did have other gals (a couple) on a list to see. But; never did.

While taking me around the local interesting spots we went to see this old famous monk in the countryside.

He somehow thought we were married already or somehow our souls were already joined and so he blessed us as man & wife.

Gee; we had just met (no sex yet, my listeners), yet this old monk somehow discerned that our paths were designed to be one.

Pretty freaky stuff; I’ll tell ya.

Anyways; that’s the short version of how we met.

So: just like that.

I had to escape from the USA and back to Canada (I’m Canadian) to sponsor her.

That took almost 3 years.

At the age of 42; getting married for the 1^st time, having a wife and a steady

home to be at (I had travelled the world (Venezuela, Columbia, Greece, Turkey,

France, Germany, Malaysia, Mexico, Spain, had been way up past the Arctic Circle,

Switzerland, Holland, Belgium………….like that) with my work so hotel

rooms were more common and having a permanent place to come to

and someone to come home to was a big change.

The hardest part/thing was sharing the financial decisions and the opening of mail.

Yeesh; I just kinda freaked out about that.

Now; we look back and laugh.

My life cup is not ½ empty; neither is it ½ full: it overflows.

This, too, can happen to you.

Jerry

From: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Khwan
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:42 AM
To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: My 25 cents worth

Thank you Jerry for the very sweet and insightful post. Thank you for sharing so much of your story.

I think this is a good example of what a good relationship can be.

So I curious. What made you choose the woman that you did over all of the others that you wrote to? Did you ever meet in person the other girls you wrote to?

KHWAN

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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: Couples Questions or Problems or Discussions?

Some people should grow a sense of humor!

--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Arindam Biswas <viky_015@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Arindam Biswas <viky_015@yahoo.com>
Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: Couples Questions or Problems or Discussions?
To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 3:39 PM

i want to unsubscribe

From: wheeler92196 <michael@graficsxmic hael.com>
To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 11 March, 2010 11:14:26 PM
Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: Couples Questions or Problems or Discussions?

I think this would take the fun out of the courtship, better to wait uo give her the ATM card later, much later, after she get the job so she have some money to lend you, for beer and rental DVD.

Michael ;)

--- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, "manoj" <sharp_mannu@ ...> wrote:
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> I think that most Asian women now are too greedy. They are more interested in what you can give them and less interested in what they can do for you. Over the last 5 years I have been used by many and I am tired of it. I think that any guy who actively seeks an Asian girlfriend is a sucker. They might as well hand over their ATM card because that is what they will do in the end.
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> --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, "Khwan" <khwan@> wrote:
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> > I know lots of Group Members want to post WANT ADS for ladys.
> >
> > But when I first start this Group it was meant for people who have serious questions and want to discuss relationships with Asian men and women.
> >
> > Is there any questions or topics of discussions from people who are in relationships (or want to be in relationships) from any Group Members here?
> >
> > PLEASE! I sure I not the only Group Member who is very bored with the want ad postings here.
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> > KHWAN
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[asianamericanromance] Re: Couples Questions or Problems or Discussions?

i want to unsubscribe

From: wheeler92196 <michael@graficsxmichael.com>
To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 11 March, 2010 11:14:26 PM
Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: Couples Questions or Problems or Discussions?

I think this would take the fun out of the courtship, better to wait uo give her the ATM card later, much later, after she get the job so she have some money to lend you, for beer and rental DVD.

Michael ;)

--- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, "manoj" <sharp_mannu@ ...> wrote:
>
> I think that most Asian women now are too greedy. They are more interested in what you can give them and less interested in what they can do for you. Over the last 5 years I have been used by many and I am tired of it. I think that any guy who actively seeks an Asian girlfriend is a sucker. They might as well hand over their ATM card because that is what they will do in the end.
>
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> --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, "Khwan" <khwan@> wrote:
> >
> > I know lots of Group Members want to post WANT ADS for ladys.
> >
> > But when I first start this Group it was meant for people who have serious questions and want to discuss relationships with Asian men and women.
> >
> > Is there any questions or topics of discussions from people who are in relationships (or want to be in relationships) from any Group Members here?
> >
> > PLEASE! I sure I not the only Group Member who is very bored with the want ad postings here.
> >
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> > KHWAN
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[asianamericanromance] Re: Couples Questions or Problems or Discussions?

I think this would take the fun out of the courtship, better to wait uo give her the ATM card later, much later, after she get the job so she have some money to lend you, for beer and rental DVD.

Michael ;)

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "manoj" <sharp_mannu@...> wrote:
>
> I think that most Asian women now are too greedy. They are more interested in what you can give them and less interested in what they can do for you. Over the last 5 years I have been used by many and I am tired of it. I think that any guy who actively seeks an Asian girlfriend is a sucker. They might as well hand over their ATM card because that is what they will do in the end.
>
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> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Khwan" <khwan@> wrote:
> >
> > I know lots of Group Members want to post WANT ADS for ladys.
> >
> > But when I first start this Group it was meant for people who have serious questions and want to discuss relationships with Asian men and women.
> >
> > Is there any questions or topics of discussions from people who are in relationships (or want to be in relationships) from any Group Members here?
> >
> > PLEASE! I sure I not the only Group Member who is very bored with the want ad postings here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > KHWAN
> >
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[asianamericanromance] Re: My 25 cents worth

Thank you Jerry for the very sweet and insightful post. Thank you for sharing so much of your story.

I think this is a good example of what a good relationship can be.

So I curious. What made you choose the woman that you did over all of the others that you wrote to? Did you ever meet in person the other girls you wrote to?

KHWAN

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Just For Birds" <justforbirds@...> wrote:
>
> I am married to my Thai wife for 15 years.
>
> We have a great life.
>
> Two wonderful, smart, good looking kids who are the tops of their class.
>
> For me; when I started looking; I was 39 years old, never married.
>
> Lots of dating, of course.
>
> But; never that special one.
>
> I ended up living in the San Francisco/Bay area.
>
> I found, at the age of 39; it was difficult to meet a woman who had not been
> married or didn't have a lot of "baggage".
>
> I did date women with kids; always the same comment: "Well; you could never
> be their dad. They have a dad"
>
> Or; I had to bear the anger they held from prior relationships.
>
> Geeze: I just gave up.
>
>
>
> So; I decided I just really wanted to get married and signed up for several
> of the "mail order bride" type magazines.
>
> This being before the internet stuff.
>
> I wrote to well over 100 ladies, but; married almost the 1st one that wrote
> back.
>
> We wrote for about 6 months, I went to meet her and we wrote for 3 more
> years.
>
>
>
> For me; I like the way Asian women move.
>
> They have this casual way about them when they move their hands or just turn
> around.
>
> The shape of the eyes, the shiny black hair.
>
> It is a gestalt of movement.
>
>
>
> Many men think they are going to "save" an Asian lady from their culture of
> servitude
>
> to men and likely think they will be on the receiving end of a fair amount
> of servitude gratitude and adoration.
>
>
>
> Listen to the words in the song "My China Doll" by David Bowie.
>
>
>
> I could escape this feeling
> With my China Girl
> I feel a wreck without my
> Little China Girl
> I hear her heart beating
> Loud as thunder
> Saw their stars crashing
>
> I'm a mess without my
> Little China Girl
> Wake up mornings where's my
> Little China Girl
> I hear her heart's beating
> Loud as thunder
> Saw their stars crashing down
>
> I feel a-tragic like I'm Marlon Brando
> When I look at my china girl
> I could pretend that nothing really meant too much
> When I look at my china girl
>
> I stumble into town just like a sacred cow
> Visions of swastikas in my head
> Plans for everyone
> It's in the whites of my eyes
>
> My little china girl
> You shouldn't mess with me
> I'll ruin everything you are
> I'll give you television
> I'll give you eyes of blue
> I'll give you a man who want to rule the world
>
>
>
> I think many of us go into this thinking we will be saviors only to become
> enslaved by our own innate needs.
>
>
>
> For me; I discovered that the petite girl of my dreams had as good or better
> an education than I did.
>
> Her ability to manage money (and me) has made us financially stable.
>
> She is strong emotionally and morally.
>
> Many times I am humbled and must strive to keep up.
>
> And; the sense of family. Her family loves me and I am welcome at any time.
>
> There is no bickering in her family that is often the case in a NA family.
>
> In North America our families are all disparate entities; split up and going
> our own ways.
>
>
>
> We've had a good 15 years; no fights, some sadness (deaths in the families),
> but: a lot of great times, memories and shared endeavors.
>
> The best is that rather than (like many NA women) worrying about the break
> up or dissolution of the marriage/relationship (the glass is ½ empty); I
> think Asian women think the other way; how the marriage/relationship will
> work (the glass is ½ full). And so: for me: I ended up with a full partner
> who is headed in the same direction I am with significantly similar goals
> and morals.
>
>
>
> My advice would be to set aside any pre-conceived notions you all might have
> and concentrate on being the best you can be for the person you have decided
> to look for.
>
> You will likely get more than you bargained for; like catching ahold of a
> tigers tail.
>
> Be prepared to meet the challenge.
>
> If you are financially or morally bankrupt; it won't work.
>
> It's not working for you now; so: why share your misery?
>
> I had to straighten out my life somewhat before I took on the writing and
> before I could contemplate being a husband.
>
> But; in the end: what I have is like I won a lottery.
>
>
>
> So: that's my thoughts.
>
>
>
> Jerry in Canada.
>
>
>
> From: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Khwan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: Couples Questions or Problems or
> Discussions?
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[asianamericanromance] Re: Couples Questions or Problems or Discussions?

Actually, I mostly just look if we can talk and connect mentally. I am not interested to import a woman for 2 years and then she go sonewhere else.

If we can not talk as friends then it probably can not last.

SO I loook if there is interest, because ALL of the profiles say "willing to relocate to another country"

Well, except maybe the Canada one. And the teacher in Thailand said on it "Not sure"

Michael

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Khwan" <khwan@...> wrote:
>
> Michael make a good post here.
>
> So I curious Michael-what are you looking for when you contact these women first time?
>
>
>
> KHWAN
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "wheeler92196" <michael@> wrote:
> >
> > I have to do group a favor, there are plenty of free sites where you can talk to asian women, you do not need to place advertisement here.
> >
> > Some of them are pay and some of them have fake asian women, but there are some free ones too.
> >
> > There are a couple where you can search by nationality and location.
> >
> > This first one is not availble to every country in the world, my friend in Cebu City tried and they delete her profile a few minutes after she type it in.
> >
> > The site is http://www.plentyoffish.com/
> > I met a nice woman Laotian there and we have dinner or lunch quite a few times but she is in near Lake Elsinore and that is too far away from me. The traffic on the I-15 highway makes it to long to get there. We are still friends, that is what she was looking for.
> >
> > This next one, you can also search by nationality, but I do not know if it is open to all coutries.
> > http://www.datehookup.com/
> > I have swapped email with a couple there and talked to one on the phone but we never got around to meeting.
> >
> > This next one is global, I talked to a Thailand woman there for a long time and she is a smart woman, she got her Masters degree last spring. This is the link:
> > http://www.dateinasia.com/
> > She is very petty. But like I said, she is a smart woman, and she told me that she does not thnk I will ever come visit her. She is right, I am broke, but we say high on yahoo mesenger now and then.
> >
> > I also talk photography to one I found there that lives in Canada.
> >
> > In California, there is another option
> > http://www.pacificsoulmate.com/
> > They throw parties now and then so you can meet the woman in person, and she will arlready be living here.
> >
> > I know too asian women relatively well, one I met through photography, quite by acident, and my phone is plugged up with her mesages and mised calls, but we talk every day, a couple times.
> >
> > I have met her boyfriend. He is a member of Balboa Bay Club which has $70,000 annual membership fee. And I am broke. He used to be a linebacker and so that is the end of that. We are friends who do photgraphy things together.
> >
> > The other one? Where did I meet her? I have known her for several years and may visit her one day. We speak on the phone once and we send email and we talk on yahoo messenger when we can. We talk on Yahoo Messenger today for a couple hours.
> > Where did I meet her? Here is the link:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khwan/
> > It was some years ago, and the group members say bad things to her because she did not live up to their expectations. I wrote nice email to her and she tell me that some guy in Japan warned her to stay away from me.
> >
> > She was in Shanghai and he English was not so good so she did not understand the snide remarks from group members then but we go on Yahoo Messenger a bunch of times and over he years we became friends.
> >
> > Back then she used translator to make the English words, and it spoke the words too, but it was a Chinese translator so first time I talk to her on the phone, when she think she could speak, it was hard for me to tell what she say.
> >
> > She wanted to know how to get ready to come to USA and I told her to get a driver's license and she did. She is here now, Washington somewhere and is thinking of moving to Oregon.
> >
> > Oh yeah, I also meet one on a movie set where we were background extra people but we keep playing phone tag so I have not met her since.
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Khwan" <khwan@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I know lots of Group Members want to post WANT ADS for ladys.
> > >
> > > But when I first start this Group it was meant for people who have serious questions and want to discuss relationships with Asian men and women.
> > >
> > > Is there any questions or topics of discussions from people who are in relationships (or want to be in relationships) from any Group Members here?
> > >
> > > PLEASE! I sure I not the only Group Member who is very bored with the want ad postings here.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > KHWAN
> > >
> >
>