Hi Rose,
That's a beautiful statment in your previous message.
A common topic is easier to attract responding I guess since everyone has his/her criterion in gf/bf or wiffy/hubby. We are simply part of the natural world as a prime kind of creature. We are developing our civilization n society where family is the basic unite, hence mate play an important role.
Your modest comment is a fresh to this topic and I believe you would have a lovely hubby.
cheers,
Sharon
--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Rose" <pinkiee.roses@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Been watching this group lately and well -sorry- I said at least now this group alive. In all the yahoo groups I join, there will always be passive members and tend to hide behind the scene. But past few days, this group started to 'alive' even with cynical comments.
>
> I am just an ordinary person, am not an american, am not thai also - even tho I wish to be one coz I find most of thai ladies are really pretty- and I join this group in hope of finding friennds :)
>
> Sharon got every rights to say what she wants in a man whom she wants to be her husband. And who we are have a right to judge other people wants, other people dreams ? Each people has their own dream and needs, and its up to them how they want it. Its a free world.
>
> And just like all the girls in the world, maybe including me :p, wants to have better husband, better future. Especially once we enter marriage life, its not about man and woman only but also goot kids to think about. Isn't it better oif we can see all from the bright side instead of the dark side ?
>
> Its just my 2cents :)
> Hope this group will become the best group :)
>
> Cheers
> Rose
>
>
> Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
> Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@...>
> Sender: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:56:50
> To: <asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> (1)You said you are married but you browsed on this website and even involved your son to course together with you on here.
>
> (2)You rephrase our words into a bad side.
>
> (3)I have never lived in English speaking countries, that's why I am not familiar with English.
>
> (4)I think the group offer a cool channcel for free expression n that's why our post is on here.
>
>
> Sharon
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> >
> > fuck off Steve you wuss
> > ?
> > For the record, this is my last post-, but let me give a history for the new joiners to this thread who seem not to have been paying attention to the start of it.
> > ?
> > 1) someone named Sharon sent an email posting herself available for a man with $2million USD
> > ?
> > 2) MANY (!!!) people? replied that she was offering herself for sale like a whore, others suggesting she was too old to be worth that kind of money, over the hill, christmas cake (?).? etc.etc..?
> > ?
> > 3) Sharon replied many times again, in language that seemed to indicate she was not very familiar with english language and/or culture
> > ?
> > 4) I THEN TRIED TO DEFEND?Sharon - suggesting that she be given the benefit of the doubt (this is after all a site to discuss asian-american romance and the difference in culture that may arise)?
> > ?
> > 5) Khwan replied that I was wrong and revealed her thoughts about american men being fat ugly and old, and looking for young sexy asian because they cannot find it at home,?and also that men want a maid servant and baby factory.? Khwan also said that since men 'make a list' of things, it was OK for Sharon to make demands too.
> > ?
> > 6) I replied that her comment was pretty cynical (for the moderator of a group) and she revealed a little more of her thoughts about amercian men then she might have wanted to (being the moderator of the group here)
> > ?
> > 7) Khwan, missing the boat ENTIRELY, replied in a rude and demeaning manner and even brought my children into the discussion
> > ?
> > 8) I caller her a bitch for her bitchiness (and dont forget- we now also know what the MODERATOR of the group thinks about fat, old, ugly american men)
> > ?
> > 9) other people chimed in with their name calling
> > ?
> > This group is NOT well led, and the members are prone to knee-jerk name calling and insulting behavior.
> > ?
> > So... please some one either remove my name from this group or tell me how I do it.
> > ?
> > ?
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@>
> > Subject: Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:39 AM
> >
> >
> > ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Khwan
> > ?
> > From another man, I truely support your thoughts. This dud appears to be a real jerk.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Khwan <khwan@khwan. com>
> > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 8:15:10 PM
> > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> >
> > ?
> >
> > What a sad little man you must really be.
> >
> > As soon as a woman says something you do not agree with you call them whores and bitches.
> >
> > Is this how your mother raised you to treat women?
> >
> > No need to post a reply. This Group has had enough disrespect and name calling from you.
> >
> > Consider yourself not welcome to post here any more in the future until you learn to respect women.
> >
> > KHWAN
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > > wow- what a bitch you are
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:43 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > ??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike:
> > >
> > > I fear that it is you who revealed more about yourself than you think.
> > >
> > > I NEVER called ALL men who go to Asia "fat, ugly, poor, slobs". Maybe you see yourself as that and see my words as reflection of poor self-image? I said that many men who not considered attractive or older in USA go to Asia to find younger girlfriends and wives. The reason is simple-they not want older and less attractive women in the USA. This is the reason why so many people here prejudice over lady older than 30 years old-and this criticism coming from men 45-60 years old.
> > >
> > > As for revealing yourself more-I think any man who calls a woman he never met a "whore" has no respect for women in general. And the type of man who has this little respect is exactly the kind of man that sadly often looks to women of other countries for a relationship. Maybe you think it OK to call women whores because you not agree with them-I do not. It is rude and shows lack of education and manners and respect.
> > >
> > > Again. I not say this is for ALL men. But I think most women would have little to do with a man who disrepects women like you have.
> > >
> > > KHWAN
> > >
> > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > your opion that all the men who went to asia are fat ugly poor slobs is the cynical part
> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
> > > > the idiots who posted that she was over 30 were stupid too.
> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
> > > > They revealed themselves for the idiots they are, but she started out by coming on as a gold digging whore
> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 5:44 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What part I say is cynical? It is true. MANY older men in the West (USA) go to Asia to find younger girls.
> > > >
> > > > Look at the posts here for the last few days.
> > > >
> > > > EVERY man who posted against Shannon was over 45. And yet they were critical of her because she was over 30. Spoiled milk someone called her.
> > > >
> > > > Is that not double standard?
> > > >
> > > > I not say this 100% of the men who are in relationships with Asian woman. But if you not think it common-I think your eyes are closed.
> > > >
> > > > KHWAN
> > > >
> > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > wow- i think you might have revealed a little more about your cynical attitude toward american man than you might have intended
> > > > > ??�šÃ‚Â�
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 4:15 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ??�šÃ‚Â�
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SHE STARTED IT!???'?¢â?šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'â?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃÆ'?'?¢â?šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'â?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃÆ'?'?¢â?šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'â?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok now that we have received a few more responses from her it is starting to seem more like a cultural difference
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In this country expressing how much assets you demand of your furutre husband is not going to go over very big.???'?¢â?šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'â?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?It makes you sound like you have a price tag for your 'services' and we know what that is called (prostitution)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand this point of view.
> > > > >
> > > > > At same time-I understand her point of view. Men so many times look to Asia for girlfriends and wives because they not can find same in their country.
> > > > >
> > > > > They have big long list of what they want:
> > > > >
> > > > > Young. Pretty. Work hard like maid to take care of house.
> > > > >
> > > > > Give husband children or take care of children husband have.
> > > > >
> > > > > And these lists come from older men who are overweight and not attractive or not have good jobs. These men not can find sexy young girls in USA that want to date them. So they think that they can find that in Asia.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if men have list of what they want-what is wrong with women have same list?
> > > > >
> > > > > > And I wonder if you understand the value of $2million USD- it is less than 1% of the population that has that kind of money (that would be considered very very rich)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That is still 3,000,000 people. So it not impossible to find.
> > > > >
> > > > > And again. I go back to what I say before. Why is this bad when men have long list of what they want in Asia girl-a list that they could never find in the USA?
> > > > >
> > > > > ??�šÃ‚Â�
> > > > >
> > > > > > One potential girl friend I met told me her family expected me to pay them $1million USD for marriage to her.???'?¢â?šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'â?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?I had to explain to them that it was the same as 40million tb - when they really only meant $5,000 usd (but hiked it up higher, because they think all americans are rich)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are not all American's rich?
> > > > >
> > > > > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Or I should say most much more rich than Thai families.
> > > > >
> > > > > > But people in USA RARELY talk in terms of millions of USD. That is still one hell of a lot of money
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example- a nice house can be purchased for $100,000.castle (like the one I own) can be purchased for $450,000.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In Los Angeles it almost impossible to find little house in not great neighborhood for less than $450,000.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think for $100,000 you can lease a nice parking space.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Some areas of the country had homes approcahcing 700K to $1million but those over-inflated price days are long gone- wiped out in the real estate crash last year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again. Not in California.
> > > > >
> > > > > KHWAN
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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