Asian American Romance: 06/16/10

Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: Most Romantic Asian Country

I'm sorry, I didn't word that very well. I enjoyed my visits to Thailand very much, found the people very friendly and welcoming and would certainly like to visit again. I definitely didn't mean to imply I preferred one over the other.

In northeast Washington state, the ratio of Thai restaurants to Philippine is about 3 to 2. Both cuisines are popular here.

John S.

In a message dated 6/16/2010 9:18:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, khwan@khwan.com writes:

Thailand is a country that has lots of vistors and holiday goers. The Phillipines does not. So Thailand is use to having many farang from all over the West. I did not see many tourists in the Phillipines.

Go to any city in USA and you will find many MANY Thai restaurants. How many Phillipine restaurants do you know of? Food? I think Thai food more acceptable to Western stomach that Phillipine foods.

So I still not see such a great difference between the countries.

I still waiting to hear exact examples-what in Thailand is so strange to Western vistors and OK in Phillipines?

KHWAN

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, simanton@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The only observation I have is that the Philippines were US territory for
> almost 50 years and had a much larger US military presence for the rest of
> the 20th century compared to Thailand, which tends to make the Philippines
> more "familiar" to Americans and Americans less foreign to Filipinos.
>
> John S.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/15/2010 10:35:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> khwan@... writes:
>
> And I curious to hear what you see differences? I understand that
> Philippines is Christian and Thailand Buddha (mostly), but for day to day they not
> seem THAT different. So what I not see?
>
>
> KHWAN
>
>
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, bruce newell <brucen96@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Philippine culture and Thai culture not even close to the same
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/15/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: Most Romantic Asian Country
> > To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 10:14 PM
> >
> >
> > Ã‚
> >
> >
> >
> > You know I HAVE to ask. How is Thai culture different that what you are
> use to?
> >
> > I been to Philippines 1 time-and it much like Thailand. But same time.
> It not seem like place for relaxing (or romance) and I not can imagine many
> American feel comfortable there.
> >
> > I look forward to your answer!
> >
> > KHWAN
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, bruce newell <brucen96@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Been to the Philippines and to Thailand............both have wonderful
> women.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ I prefer Thai women but the culture there is quite different
> from what I was used to.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 6/15/10, gelato.icecream <gelato.icecream@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: gelato.icecream <gelato.icecream@>
> > > Subject: [asianamericanromance] Most Romantic Asian Country
> > > To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 5:13 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Decided to start looking for my soulmate-which country do the members
> here think offer the most romantic women? The women who are most compatible
> with American men?
> > >
> > > Jimmy
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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[asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

I agree.

I fear we 1 or 2 posts away from more anti-USA posts here and what is wrong with the USA and how much better ______ country is.

KHWAN

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, simanton@... wrote:
>
> With all due respect, I recommend shifting back to more romantic topics.
>
> John S.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/16/2010 9:11:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> justforbirds@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> Matt:
> Youâ€™re a tad deluded if you think corporations keep the world going.
> Itâ€™s small business; the mom-â€˜n-pop operations.
> Itâ€™s the regular folks working and paying taxes that keep the roads in
> service and provide water and electricity for the corporations to make profit.
> Itâ€™s the greed of corporations that have changed the family unit and made
> moms go out and work.
> Big greedy corporations like BP (the 5th wealthiest corp. in the world) is
> a good example.
> Anything for a profit and look what BPsâ€™ doing to the world.
> Look what happened in Bhopal India.
> If not for Shell Oil; we wouldnâ€™t have so many, many problems in the
> Middle East.
> Corporations donâ€™t pay for social services.
> Corporations are the #1 reason most Americans canâ€™t have good health care
> (except for the healthy and the wealthy).
> Read some John Perkins books.
> Corporations should pay their fair share of taxes.
> J
> [ Resonding to your original e-mai:l]
>
> People demonize rich corporations and say TAX THEM MORE!
>

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[asianamericanromance] Re: Most Romantic Asian Country

Thailand is a country that has lots of vistors and holiday goers. The Phillipines does not. So Thailand is use to having many farang from all over the West. I did not see many tourists in the Phillipines.

Go to any city in USA and you will find many MANY Thai restaurants. How many Phillipine restaurants do you know of? Food? I think Thai food more acceptable to Western stomach that Phillipine foods.

So I still not see such a great difference between the countries.

I still waiting to hear exact examples-what in Thailand is so strange to Western vistors and OK in Phillipines?

KHWAN

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, simanton@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The only observation I have is that the Philippines were US territory for
> almost 50 years and had a much larger US military presence for the rest of
> the 20th century compared to Thailand, which tends to make the Philippines
> more "familiar" to Americans and Americans less foreign to Filipinos.
>
> John S.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/15/2010 10:35:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> khwan@... writes:
>
> And I curious to hear what you see differences? I understand that
> Philippines is Christian and Thailand Buddha (mostly), but for day to day they not
> seem THAT different. So what I not see?
>
>
> KHWAN
>
>
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, bruce newell <brucen96@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Philippine culture and Thai culture not even close to the same
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/15/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: Most Romantic Asian Country
> > To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 10:14 PM
> >
> >
> > Ã‚
> >
> >
> >
> > You know I HAVE to ask. How is Thai culture different that what you are
> use to?
> >
> > I been to Philippines 1 time-and it much like Thailand. But same time.
> It not seem like place for relaxing (or romance) and I not can imagine many
> American feel comfortable there.
> >
> > I look forward to your answer!
> >
> > KHWAN
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, bruce newell <brucen96@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Been to the Philippines and to Thailand............both have wonderful
> women.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ I prefer Thai women but the culture there is quite different
> from what I was used to.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 6/15/10, gelato.icecream <gelato.icecream@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: gelato.icecream <gelato.icecream@>
> > > Subject: [asianamericanromance] Most Romantic Asian Country
> > > To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 5:13 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Decided to start looking for my soulmate-which country do the members
> here think offer the most romantic women? The women who are most compatible
> with American men?
> > >
> > > Jimmy
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

With all due respect, I recommend shifting back to more romantic topics.

John S.

In a message dated 6/16/2010 9:11:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, justforbirds@telus.net writes:

Matt:

You're a tad deluded if you think corporations keep the world going.

It's small business; the mom-'n-pop operations.

It's the regular folks working and paying taxes that keep the roads in service and provide water and electricity for the corporations to make profit.

It's the greed of corporations that have changed the family unit and made moms go out and work.

Big greedy corporations like BP (the 5^th wealthiest corp. in the world) is a good example.

Anything for a profit and look what BPs' doing to the world.

Look what happened in Bhopal India.

If not for Shell Oil; we wouldn't have so many, many problems in the Middle East.

Corporations don't pay for social services.

Corporations are the #1 reason most Americans can't have good health care (except for the healthy and the wealthy).

Read some John Perkins books.

Corporations should pay their fair share of taxes.

J

[ Resonding to your original e-mai:l]

People demonize rich corporations and say TAX THEM MORE!

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Re: [asianamericanromance] Interested to hear love stories of couples here

Patience, adjustment and compromise will usually win!

John S.

In a message dated 6/16/2010 12:36:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, zhingph@yahoo.com writes:

Hi everyone.... been in this group since last year I guess... and is quite interested to hear love stories of couples here. Say for example, how they metup, and the things they are doing to overcome the language and cultural differences they had. I think it is more interesting and inspiring to hear such, other than debating which culture is far better than the other. I'm also an Asian woman (mixed Filipino-Japanese) and is now based in Middle East(because of my job). I was able to travel to several countries and was able to observe the similarities and differences a country has from the other. I am able to meet and know people of different color,races and status in life. I can therefore say that cultural differences is not a big barrier if both love each other and is willing to adjust and to compromise.

Hope to hear from this group, to inspire a single lady like me. Cheers to everyone.

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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

Hmmm, I misspelled "Mikado." But anyway, one must always be patient when fishing, Sharon!

John S.

In a message dated 6/16/2010 8:16:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lin.sharon123@yahoo.com writes:

Hi John,

I don't see any single fish ??

cheers,
Sharon

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, simanton@... wrote:
>
> As the character Yum Yum observes in Gilbert & Sullivan's "The Mikadl":
>
> "There are lots of good fish in the sea!"
>
> John S.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/14/2010 12:56:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> lin.sharon123@... writes:
>
> Hi John,
>
> That's right, pitty you are married though.
>
> cheers,
> Sharon
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, simanton@ wrote:
> >
> > Sharon has put out a pretty clear list of the attributes she is looking
>
> > for.
> >
> > John S.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/13/2010 12:09:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > justforbirds@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Criterion = criteria = qualifications = standards.
> > i.e.: are you good enough?
> > Do you measure up or   leave something(a little or a lot) to be desired?
> > Try: _www.dictionary.com_ (http://www.dictionary.com/)
> >
> >
> > From: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnaldo Beni
> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:23 AM
> > To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE:   [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and what is a criterion?
> >
> > ____________________________________
> >
> > To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > From:   lin.sharon123@
> > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 16:27:36 +0000
> > Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > for my criterion
> >
> > --- In _asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com) , Arnaldo Beni <hab77@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > qualified for   what?
> >
>
>
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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: Most Romantic Asian Country

The only observation I have is that the Philippines were US territory for almost 50 years and had a much larger US military presence for the rest of the 20th century compared to Thailand, which tends to make the Philippines more "familiar" to Americans and Americans less foreign to Filipinos.

John S.

In a message dated 6/15/2010 10:35:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, khwan@khwan.com writes:

And I curious to hear what you see differences? I understand that Philippines is Christian and Thailand Buddha (mostly), but for day to day they not seem THAT different. So what I not see?

KHWAN

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, bruce newell <brucen96@...> wrote:
>
> Philippine culture and Thai culture not even close to the same
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/15/10, Khwan <khwan@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Khwan <khwan@...>
> Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: Most Romantic Asian Country
> To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 10:14 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> You know I HAVE to ask. How is Thai culture different that what you are use to?
>
> I been to Philippines 1 time-and it much like Thailand. But same time. It not seem like place for relaxing (or romance) and I not can imagine many American feel comfortable there.
>
> I look forward to your answer!
>
> KHWAN
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, bruce newell <brucen96@> wrote:
> >
> > Been to the Philippines and to Thailand............both have wonderful women.Ã‚Â I prefer Thai women but the culture there is quite different from what I was used to.Ã‚Â
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/15/10, gelato.icecream <gelato.icecream@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: gelato.icecream <gelato.icecream@>
> > Subject: [asianamericanromance] Most Romantic Asian Country
> > To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 5:13 PM
> >
> >
> > Ã‚Â
> >
> >
> >
> > Decided to start looking for my soulmate-which country do the members here think offer the most romantic women? The women who are most compatible with American men?
> >
> > Jimmy
> >
>

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RE: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

Matt:

You’re a tad deluded if you think corporations keep the world going.

It’s small business; the mom-‘n-pop operations.

It’s the regular folks working and paying taxes that keep the roads in service and provide water and electricity for the corporations to make profit.

It’s the greed of corporations that have changed the family unit and made moms go out and work.

Big greedy corporations like BP (the 5^th wealthiest corp. in the world) is a good example.

Anything for a profit and look what BPs’ doing to the world.

Look what happened in Bhopal India.

If not for Shell Oil; we wouldn’t have so many, many problems in the Middle East.

Corporations don’t pay for social services.

Corporations are the #1 reason most Americans can’t have good health care (except for the healthy and the wealthy).

Read some John Perkins books.

Corporations should pay their fair share of taxes.

[ Resonding to your original e-mai:l]

People demonize rich corporations and say TAX THEM MORE!

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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

We're in a day and age and economy where it is more logical for both parties in a family to work.

Gas prices keep rising , which causes electric bills to continue to rise, wich cause food costs to rise (food has to be transported from somewhere).

Taxes are going to increase, and when taxes increase that causes all cost of living to increase. I'm not sure why people can't comprehend that common sense concept.

People demonize rich corporations and say TAX THEM MORE! But you know what? Those corporations employ people. Have you ever gotten a job from a poor person? No.

And when those corporations and "rich people" are over taxed. Then they have to do something to compensate for the over taxation. They have to lay people off because they can't afford to pay them (cuz of high taxes). Or they have to increase the cost of their product to cover the cost of the increased taxes.

ALL of this points to 1 thing. A family can no longer , easily, be supported on the mans income. We're in a new era. The woman needs to work too.

Any woman who disagrees.. I'm sorry.. but she's a lazy gold digger. That goes for Asian, Black, White, and Red women.

Why else would a woman NOT want to work to help support a family?

Cleaning the house, cooking the food does not pay the bills. Nothing is free , everything costs money.

Matt

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RE: [asianamericanromance] Re: love and romance ( a man in love and thankful for the love of a good woman)

Nathaniel:

Gee; that is similar to my story.

I was 42 when I got married to my Thai wife.

I had virtually given up.

My family had given up.

They thought I might even be gay (not a happy thought, there).

So: at 42: there I was getting married for the 1^st time.

YIKES!

Well; talk about a shock to the system, boys & girls.

It was like learning to breathe and walk all over again.

We now have 2 great, intelligent, handsome well behaved cool boys(see the photo album).

If you get married you relationship and any kidlets will reap the rewards of your (by now)

settled life and solid beliefs and financial systems.

Good luck.

[ Resonding to your original e-mai:l]

Khwan I am over 40 years old and i wanted a family but i also gave up on that until she came into my life >
> Thank you for posting this positive message!ss
>
> May I ask how you met your wife? And how long you together?
>
>
> KHWAN
>

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[asianamericanromance] Re: Most Romantic Asian Country

Jimmy,
On your Yahoo! profile you only have your sex and home town. I think you should add your age and a recent photo.

If I were in search of a good wife I would try Thailand or Cambodia.
Both of these seem to be friendly to the U.S.
Last month I took a 4 hour walk in Chiang Mai and since I looked tired 2 friendly ladies offerd me chairs to rest. I later had a long talk with a shop girl. It is easy to meet nice people in both countries.

~Dale~

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "gelato.icecream" <gelato.icecream@...> wrote:
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> Decided to start looking for my soulmate-which country do the members here think offer the most romantic women? The women who are most compatible with American men?
>
>
> Jimmy
>

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[asianamericanromance] Re: Interested to hear love stories of couples here.

Ice Oracles,
I like your photo in your Yahoo! profile.

My story has been told many times:
I arrived in Taiwan, headed for Manila, on Korean Airlines but my bag missed the flight. The next day I went to a restaurant where gina was working. She called the airline and found my bag.
To thank her she went to dinner with me in anoher restaurant. I decided to stay in Taiwan a few days and skip Manila. We spent time together and we married one month later on Apr.22, 1978.
Gina says I proposed the day after we met. Not true! It was the second day.
She joined me in Illinois in May, 1978.

~Dale~

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Ice Oracles" <zhingph@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone.... been in this group since last year I guess... and is
> quite interested to hear love stories of couples here. Say for example,
> how they metup, and the things they are doing to overcome the language
> and cultural differences they had. I think it is more interesting and
> inspiring to hear such, other than debating which culture is far better
> than the other. I'm also an Asian woman (mixed Filipino-Japanese) and
> is now based in Middle East(because of my job). I was able to travel to
> several countries and was able to observe the similarities and
> differences a country has from the other. I am able to meet and know
> people of different color,races and status in life. I can therefore say
> that cultural differences is not a big barrier if both love each other
> and is willing to adjust and to compromise.
>
> Hope to hear from this group, to inspire a single lady like me. Cheers
> to everyone.
>

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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

Hi Stephen

Thank you :)

Cheers
~Rose~

Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith

From: Stephen Poe <poeman353@yahoo.com>

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:50:49 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

Good luck in your search. I hope you find what you are looking for.

________________________________
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To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 10:22:05 PM
Subject: Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

Hi John,

Nice to read your reply below, and from the bottom of my heart I really wish that you both will live happilly ever after :)

Once you both understand each other needs then the next thing to develop is good communication :) without good communication it is difficult. I do believe someway or rather people do change :)

I can say this all base on my own experience especially if its a mixed cultural relationship or marriage, need more efforts :)

Best wishes for you both
Cheers
Rose

Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
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From: simanton@aol. com
Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 01:02:01 EDT
To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
ReplyTo: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby

I quite agree, Rose!

I would not call myself wealthy, but I have a nice house and enough income to keep my fiancee and myself in comfort. We're happy and so it seems to work nicely all around!

Best wishes!

John S.

In a message dated 6/12/2010 6:26:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pinkiee.roses@ gmail.com writes:

>
>Hi John
>
>Thank you for your comment :)
>
>I always believe that good marriage or good relationship must come from both parties effort :)
>
>Cheers
>Rose
>
>
>Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
>Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
________________________________

>From: simanton@aol. com
>Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:30:34 EDT
>To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
>ReplyTo: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>Subject: Re: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>
>
>Very sensible!
>
>John S.
>
>In a message dated 6/12/2010 2:13:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pinkiee.roses@ gmail.com writes:
>
>>
>>Hi sharon :)
>>
>>Thank you for your comment :)
>>
>>I am thinking now, should I say my criterion in hubby too ? :)
>>Well what the heck .... I am a gal with a dream for my own future also but maybe a bit more simple than you(is it :p), could be because of the way I am raised up.
>>
>>He must be a loving person, and a responsable person. I rather have a bit of freedom of my own where I can work and earn for saving :)
>>He must treat me equally, coz from my friends experience, some men do treat the wife / partner like maid.
>>He must be a bit funny too of course ;)
>>He must be a stable person where got saving uhmmmm say at least $100k which is enough for minimum of 5 years comfortable living in my country with careful budgetting.
>>He must have a house, own house so there will be no worry where are we gonna stay next and hassle of moving from one house to another :)
>>
>>Opppsssss by having such criterions, should I be a pretty girl ? :)
>>
>>Let's have discussion in here .... Men please do tell what is your criterion od wife :)
>>
>>Sent on date 6/12/2010 time 15:15
>>
>>
>>Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
>>Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
________________________________

>>From: "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@ yahoo.com>
>>Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:04:20 -0000
>>To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
>>ReplyTo: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>
>>
>>Hi Rose,
>>
>>That's a beautiful statment in your previous message.
>>
>>A common topic is easier to attract responding I guess since everyone has his/her criterion in gf/bf or wiffy/hubby. We are simply part of the natural world as a prime kind of creature. We are developing our civilization n society where family is the basic unite, hence mate play an important role.
>>
>>Your modest comment is a fresh to this topic and I believe you would have a lovely hubby.
>>
>>cheers,
>>Sharon
>>
>>--- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, "Rose" <pinkiee.roses@ ...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Been watching this group lately and well -sorry- I said at least now this group alive. In all the yahoo groups I join, there will always be passive members and tend to hide behind the scene. But past few days, this group started to 'alive' even with cynical comments.
>>>
>>> I am just an ordinary person, am not an american, am not thai also - even tho I wish to be one coz I find most of thai ladies are really pretty- and I join this group in hope of finding friennds :)
>>>
>>> Sharon got every rights to say what she wants in a man whom she wants to be her husband. And who we are have a right to judge other people wants, other people dreams ? Each people has their own dream and needs, and its up to them how they want it. Its a free world.
>>>
>>> And just like all the girls in the world, maybe including me :p, wants to have better husband, better future. Especially once we enter marriage life, its not about man and woman only but also goot kids to think about. Isn't it better oif we can see all from the bright side instead of the dark side ?
>>>
>>> Its just my 2cents :)
>>> Hope this group will become the best group :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Rose
>>>
>>>
>>> Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
>>> Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@ ...>
>>> Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:56:50
>>> To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
>>> Reply-To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> (1)You said you are married but you browsed on this website and even involved your son to course together with you on here.
>>>
>>> (2)You rephrase our words into a bad side.
>>>
>>> (3)I have never lived in English speaking countries, that's why I am not familiar with English.
>>>
>>> (4)I think the group offer a cool channcel for free expression n that's why our post is on here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>> --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > fuck off Steve you wuss
>>> > ?
>>> > For the record, this is my last post-, but let me give a history for the new joiners to this thread who seem not to have been paying attention to the start of it.
>>> > ?
>>> > 1) someone named Sharon sent an email posting herself available for a man with $2million USD
>>> > ?
>>> > 2) MANY (!!!) people? replied that she was offering herself for sale like a whore, others suggesting she was too old to be worth that kind of money, over the hill, christmas cake (?).? etc.etc..?
>>> > ?
>>> > 3) Sharon replied many times again, in language that seemed to indicate she was not very familiar with english language and/or culture
>>> > ?
>>> > 4) I THEN TRIED TO DEFEND?Sharon - suggesting that she be given the benefit of the doubt (this is after all a site to discuss asian-american romance and the difference in culture that may arise)?
>>> > ?
>>> > 5) Khwan replied that I was wrong and revealed her thoughts about american men being fat ugly and old, and looking for young sexy asian because they cannot find it at home,?and also that men want a maid servant and baby factory.? Khwan also said that since men 'make a list' of things, it was OK for Sharon to make demands too.
>>> > ?
>>> > 6) I replied that her comment was pretty cynical (for the moderator of a group) and she revealed a little more of her thoughts about amercian men then she might have wanted to (being the moderator of the group here)
>>> > ?
>>> > 7) Khwan, missing the boat ENTIRELY, replied in a rude and demeaning manner and even brought my children into the discussion
>>> > ?
>>> > 8) I caller her a bitch for her bitchiness (and dont forget- we now also know what the MODERATOR of the group thinks about fat, old, ugly american men)
>>> > ?
>>> > 9) other people chimed in with their name calling
>>> > ?
>>> > This group is NOT well led, and the members are prone to knee-jerk name calling and insulting behavior.
>>> > ?
>>> > So... please some one either remove my name from this group or tell me how I do it.
>>> > ?
>>> > ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@>
>>> > Subject: Re: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:39 AM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Khwan
>>> > ?
>>> > From another man, I truely support your thoughts. This dud appears to be a real jerk.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Khwan <khwan@khwan. com>
>>> > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 8:15:10 PM
>>> > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> >
>>> > ?
>>> >
>>> > What a sad little man you must really be.
>>> >
>>> > As soon as a woman says something you do not agree with you call them whores and bitches.
>>> >
>>> > Is this how your mother raised you to treat women?
>>> >
>>> > No need to post a reply. This Group has had enough disrespect and name calling from you.
>>> >
>>> > Consider yourself not welcome to post here any more in the future until you learn to respect women.
>>> >
>>> > KHWAN
>>> >
>>> > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@ .> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > wow- what a bitch you are
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
>>> > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:43 PM
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ??
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Mike:
>>> > >
>>> > > I fear that it is you who revealed more about yourself than you think.
>>> > >
>>> > > I NEVER called ALL men who go to Asia "fat, ugly, poor, slobs". Maybe you see yourself as that and see my words as reflection of poor self-image? I said that many men who not considered attractive or older in USA go to Asia to find younger girlfriends and wives. The reason is simple-they not want older and less attractive women in the USA. This is the reason why so many people here prejudice over lady older than 30 years old-and this criticism coming from men 45-60 years old.
>>> > >
>>> > > As for revealing yourself more-I think any man who calls a woman he never met a "whore" has no respect for women in general. And the type of man who has this little respect is exactly the kind of man that sadly often looks to women of other countries for a relationship. Maybe you think it OK to call women whores because you not agree with them-I do not. It is rude and shows lack of education and manners and respect.
>>> > >
>>> > > Again. I not say this is for ALL men. But I think most women would have little to do with a man who disrepects women like you have.
>>> > >
>>> > > KHWAN
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > your opion that all the men who went to asia are fat ugly poor slobs is the cynical part
>>> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > the idiots who posted that she was over 30 were stupid too.
>>> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > They revealed themselves for the idiots they are, but she started out by coming on as a gold digging whore
>>> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
>>> > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 5:44 PM
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > What part I say is cynical? It is true. MANY older men in the West (USA) go to Asia to find younger girls.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Look at the posts here for the last few days.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > EVERY man who posted against Shannon was over 45. And yet they were critical of her because she was over 30. Spoiled milk someone called her.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Is that not double standard?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I not say this 100% of the men who are in relationships with Asian woman. But if you not think it common-I think your eyes are closed.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > KHWAN
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > wow- i think you might have revealed a little more about your cynical attitude toward american man than you might have intended
>>> > > > > ??Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
>>> > > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> > > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 4:15 PM
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ??Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > SHE STARTED IT!???'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â ÃƒÆ'?'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â ÃƒÆ'?'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Ok now that we have received a few more responses from her it is starting to seem more like a cultural difference
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > In this country expressing how much assets you demand of your furutre husband is not going to go over very big.???'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?It makes you sound like you have a price tag for your 'services' and we know what that is called (prostitution)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I understand this point of view.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > At same time-I understand her point of view. Men so many times look to Asia for girlfriends and wives because they not can find same in their country.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > They have big long list of what they want:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Young. Pretty. Work hard like maid to take care of house.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Give husband children or take care of children husband have.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > And these lists come from older men who are overweight and not attractive or not have good jobs. These men not can find sexy young girls in USA that want to date them. So they think that they can find that in Asia.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > So if men have list of what they want-what is wrong with women have same list?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > And I wonder if you understand the value of $2million USD- it is less than 1% of the population that has that kind of money (that would be considered very very rich)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > That is still 3,000,000 people. So it not impossible to find.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > And again. I go back to what I say before. Why is this bad when men have long list of what they want in Asia girl-a list that they could never find in the USA?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ??Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > One potential girl friend I met told me her family expected me to pay them $1million USD for marriage to her.???'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?I had to explain to them that it was the same as 40million tb - when they really only meant $5,000 usd (but hiked it up higher, because they think all americans are rich)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Are not all American's rich?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > :-)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Or I should say most much more rich than Thai families.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > But people in USA RARELY talk in terms of millions of USD. That is still one hell of a lot of money
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > For example- a nice house can be purchased for $100,000.castle (like the one I own) can be purchased for $450,000.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > In Los Angeles it almost impossible to find little house in not great neighborhood for less than $450,000.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I think for $100,000 you can lease a nice parking space.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Some areas of the country had homes approcahcing 700K to $1million but those over-inflated price days are long gone- wiped out in the real estate crash last year.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Again. Not in California.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > KHWAN
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>

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[asianamericanromance] Re: love and romance ( a man in love and thankful for the love of a good woman)

Dear Khwan I would be glad to tell you first of all we are still together even if she is still in Philippines now we have been together as for over 2 years but how we got together was by a great friend that i know as my lovely woman and my friend that induce us was both working in Taiwan when she told me that there was a friend of hers that she feel that we could be friends well we did talk to each other in on the phone then on the web we found out that we not only was our feelings was growing but we looking but i had given up on ever finding romantic and caring love you see Khwan I am over 40 years old and i wanted a family but i also gave up on that until she came into my life we made plans to see each other in Nov of 07 i had to work hard to get the time off but i got 2 weeks off and I can tell you that was one of the best 2 weeks of my life not only was i happy but what made me even happier was that we was happy together and the love that we was both looking for was found in each other and everyday i am truly thankful for her for the part that was missing in our life that we was looking for was found she do not care about how much money i have only that i love her and won't break her heart of which i will not do because to do so will break mine even more she feels that we are a gift from God when i was in the Philippines her family was very happy and her father had a feast in our honor they made me feel so much like a member of the family My mom is also very happy too and she always ask how is she and mom also ask me how is she too by the way both our mothers has diabetes as well too she want's my mom to come to the Philippines one day to live but my mom do not like to fly there is so much to say but i love her with all of my heart and she feels the same way too.
--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Khwan" <khwan@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for posting this positive message!ss
>
> May I ask how you met your wife? And how long you together?
>
>
> KHWAN
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Nathaniel T" nathaniel_t1@ wrote:
> >
> > I love all women of the world and I am in love with a wonderful woman
> > from the Philippines that has showed me how to love and trust once more
> > and I am much happier because of her we have been together in good times
> > and bad we are still together and i hope that all that are in this group
> > will have the love that we share too [:)]
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfZgyxaspF8
> >
>

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[asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

Good luck in your search. I hope you find what you are looking for.

________________________________
From: Rose <pinkiee.roses@gmail.com>
To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 10:22:05 PM
Subject: Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

Hi John,

Nice to read your reply below, and from the bottom of my heart I really wish that you both will live happilly ever after :)

Once you both understand each other needs then the next thing to develop is good communication :) without good communication it is difficult. I do believe someway or rather people do change :)

I can say this all base on my own experience especially if its a mixed cultural relationship or marriage, need more efforts :)

Best wishes for you both
Cheers
Rose

Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
________________________________

From: simanton@aol. com
Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 01:02:01 EDT
To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
ReplyTo: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby

I quite agree, Rose!

I would not call myself wealthy, but I have a nice house and enough income to keep my fiancee and myself in comfort. We're happy and so it seems to work nicely all around!

Best wishes!

John S.

In a message dated 6/12/2010 6:26:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pinkiee.roses@ gmail.com writes:

>
>Hi John
>
>Thank you for your comment :)
>
>I always believe that good marriage or good relationship must come from both parties effort :)
>
>Cheers
>Rose
>
>
>Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
>Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
________________________________

>From: simanton@aol. com
>Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:30:34 EDT
>To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
>ReplyTo: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>Subject: Re: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>
>
>Very sensible!
>
>John S.
>
>In a message dated 6/12/2010 2:13:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pinkiee.roses@ gmail.com writes:
>
>>
>>Hi sharon :)
>>
>>Thank you for your comment :)
>>
>>I am thinking now, should I say my criterion in hubby too ? :)
>>Well what the heck .... I am a gal with a dream for my own future also but maybe a bit more simple than you(is it :p), could be because of the way I am raised up.
>>
>>He must be a loving person, and a responsable person. I rather have a bit of freedom of my own where I can work and earn for saving :)
>>He must treat me equally, coz from my friends experience, some men do treat the wife / partner like maid.
>>He must be a bit funny too of course ;)
>>He must be a stable person where got saving uhmmmm say at least $100k which is enough for minimum of 5 years comfortable living in my country with careful budgetting.
>>He must have a house, own house so there will be no worry where are we gonna stay next and hassle of moving from one house to another :)
>>
>>Opppsssss by having such criterions, should I be a pretty girl ? :)
>>
>>Let's have discussion in here .... Men please do tell what is your criterion od wife :)
>>
>>Sent on date 6/12/2010 time 15:15
>>
>>
>>Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
>>Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
________________________________

>>From: "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@ yahoo.com>
>>Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:04:20 -0000
>>To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
>>ReplyTo: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>
>>
>>Hi Rose,
>>
>>That's a beautiful statment in your previous message.
>>
>>A common topic is easier to attract responding I guess since everyone has his/her criterion in gf/bf or wiffy/hubby. We are simply part of the natural world as a prime kind of creature. We are developing our civilization n society where family is the basic unite, hence mate play an important role.
>>
>>Your modest comment is a fresh to this topic and I believe you would have a lovely hubby.
>>
>>cheers,
>>Sharon
>>
>>--- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, "Rose" <pinkiee.roses@ ...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Been watching this group lately and well -sorry- I said at least now this group alive. In all the yahoo groups I join, there will always be passive members and tend to hide behind the scene. But past few days, this group started to 'alive' even with cynical comments.
>>>
>>> I am just an ordinary person, am not an american, am not thai also - even tho I wish to be one coz I find most of thai ladies are really pretty- and I join this group in hope of finding friennds :)
>>>
>>> Sharon got every rights to say what she wants in a man whom she wants to be her husband. And who we are have a right to judge other people wants, other people dreams ? Each people has their own dream and needs, and its up to them how they want it. Its a free world.
>>>
>>> And just like all the girls in the world, maybe including me :p, wants to have better husband, better future. Especially once we enter marriage life, its not about man and woman only but also goot kids to think about. Isn't it better oif we can see all from the bright side instead of the dark side ?
>>>
>>> Its just my 2cents :)
>>> Hope this group will become the best group :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Rose
>>>
>>>
>>> Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
>>> Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@ ...>
>>> Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:56:50
>>> To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
>>> Reply-To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> (1)You said you are married but you browsed on this website and even involved your son to course together with you on here.
>>>
>>> (2)You rephrase our words into a bad side.
>>>
>>> (3)I have never lived in English speaking countries, that's why I am not familiar with English.
>>>
>>> (4)I think the group offer a cool channcel for free expression n that's why our post is on here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>> --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > fuck off Steve you wuss
>>> > ?
>>> > For the record, this is my last post-, but let me give a history for the new joiners to this thread who seem not to have been paying attention to the start of it.
>>> > ?
>>> > 1) someone named Sharon sent an email posting herself available for a man with $2million USD
>>> > ?
>>> > 2) MANY (!!!) people? replied that she was offering herself for sale like a whore, others suggesting she was too old to be worth that kind of money, over the hill, christmas cake (?).? etc.etc..?
>>> > ?
>>> > 3) Sharon replied many times again, in language that seemed to indicate she was not very familiar with english language and/or culture
>>> > ?
>>> > 4) I THEN TRIED TO DEFEND?Sharon - suggesting that she be given the benefit of the doubt (this is after all a site to discuss asian-american romance and the difference in culture that may arise)?
>>> > ?
>>> > 5) Khwan replied that I was wrong and revealed her thoughts about american men being fat ugly and old, and looking for young sexy asian because they cannot find it at home,?and also that men want a maid servant and baby factory.? Khwan also said that since men 'make a list' of things, it was OK for Sharon to make demands too.
>>> > ?
>>> > 6) I replied that her comment was pretty cynical (for the moderator of a group) and she revealed a little more of her thoughts about amercian men then she might have wanted to (being the moderator of the group here)
>>> > ?
>>> > 7) Khwan, missing the boat ENTIRELY, replied in a rude and demeaning manner and even brought my children into the discussion
>>> > ?
>>> > 8) I caller her a bitch for her bitchiness (and dont forget- we now also know what the MODERATOR of the group thinks about fat, old, ugly american men)
>>> > ?
>>> > 9) other people chimed in with their name calling
>>> > ?
>>> > This group is NOT well led, and the members are prone to knee-jerk name calling and insulting behavior.
>>> > ?
>>> > So... please some one either remove my name from this group or tell me how I do it.
>>> > ?
>>> > ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@>
>>> > Subject: Re: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:39 AM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Khwan
>>> > ?
>>> > From another man, I truely support your thoughts. This dud appears to be a real jerk.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Khwan <khwan@khwan. com>
>>> > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 8:15:10 PM
>>> > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> >
>>> > ?
>>> >
>>> > What a sad little man you must really be.
>>> >
>>> > As soon as a woman says something you do not agree with you call them whores and bitches.
>>> >
>>> > Is this how your mother raised you to treat women?
>>> >
>>> > No need to post a reply. This Group has had enough disrespect and name calling from you.
>>> >
>>> > Consider yourself not welcome to post here any more in the future until you learn to respect women.
>>> >
>>> > KHWAN
>>> >
>>> > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@ .> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > wow- what a bitch you are
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
>>> > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:43 PM
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ??
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Mike:
>>> > >
>>> > > I fear that it is you who revealed more about yourself than you think.
>>> > >
>>> > > I NEVER called ALL men who go to Asia "fat, ugly, poor, slobs". Maybe you see yourself as that and see my words as reflection of poor self-image? I said that many men who not considered attractive or older in USA go to Asia to find younger girlfriends and wives. The reason is simple-they not want older and less attractive women in the USA. This is the reason why so many people here prejudice over lady older than 30 years old-and this criticism coming from men 45-60 years old.
>>> > >
>>> > > As for revealing yourself more-I think any man who calls a woman he never met a "whore" has no respect for women in general. And the type of man who has this little respect is exactly the kind of man that sadly often looks to women of other countries for a relationship. Maybe you think it OK to call women whores because you not agree with them-I do not. It is rude and shows lack of education and manners and respect.
>>> > >
>>> > > Again. I not say this is for ALL men. But I think most women would have little to do with a man who disrepects women like you have.
>>> > >
>>> > > KHWAN
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > your opion that all the men who went to asia are fat ugly poor slobs is the cynical part
>>> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > the idiots who posted that she was over 30 were stupid too.
>>> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > They revealed themselves for the idiots they are, but she started out by coming on as a gold digging whore
>>> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
>>> > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 5:44 PM
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > ??šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > What part I say is cynical? It is true. MANY older men in the West (USA) go to Asia to find younger girls.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Look at the posts here for the last few days.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > EVERY man who posted against Shannon was over 45. And yet they were critical of her because she was over 30. Spoiled milk someone called her.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Is that not double standard?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I not say this 100% of the men who are in relationships with Asian woman. But if you not think it common-I think your eyes are closed.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > KHWAN
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > wow- i think you might have revealed a little more about your cynical attitude toward american man than you might have intended
>>> > > > > ??Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
>>> > > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>>> > > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
>>> > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 4:15 PM
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ??Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > SHE STARTED IT!???'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â ÃƒÆ'?'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â ÃƒÆ'?'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Ok now that we have received a few more responses from her it is starting to seem more like a cultural difference
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > In this country expressing how much assets you demand of your furutre husband is not going to go over very big.???'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?It makes you sound like you have a price tag for your 'services' and we know what that is called (prostitution)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I understand this point of view.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > At same time-I understand her point of view. Men so many times look to Asia for girlfriends and wives because they not can find same in their country.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > They have big long list of what they want:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Young. Pretty. Work hard like maid to take care of house.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Give husband children or take care of children husband have.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > And these lists come from older men who are overweight and not attractive or not have good jobs. These men not can find sexy young girls in USA that want to date them. So they think that they can find that in Asia.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > So if men have list of what they want-what is wrong with women have same list?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > And I wonder if you understand the value of $2million USD- it is less than 1% of the population that has that kind of money (that would be considered very very rich)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > That is still 3,000,000 people. So it not impossible to find.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > And again. I go back to what I say before. Why is this bad when men have long list of what they want in Asia girl-a list that they could never find in the USA?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ??Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > One potential girl friend I met told me her family expected me to pay them $1million USD for marriage to her.???'?Â¢Ã¢?šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢?¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â?I had to explain to them that it was the same as 40million tb - when they really only meant $5,000 usd (but hiked it up higher, because they think all americans are rich)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Are not all American's rich?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > :-)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Or I should say most much more rich than Thai families.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > But people in USA RARELY talk in terms of millions of USD. That is still one hell of a lot of money
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > For example- a nice house can be purchased for $100,000.castle (like the one I own) can be purchased for $450,000.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > In Los Angeles it almost impossible to find little house in not great neighborhood for less than $450,000.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I think for $100,000 you can lease a nice parking space.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Some areas of the country had homes approcahcing 700K to $1million but those over-inflated price days are long gone- wiped out in the real estate crash last year.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Again. Not in California.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > KHWAN
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
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