[asianamericanromance] Sharon

Post a photo, Sharon.
Most of us are in the photo section.
:)
Jerry

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Re: [asianamericanromance] New Member



Hi John :)

Welcome to this group :)
Nice to have you here and hopefully you will find this group interesting :)

Cheers
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From: "John S" <simanton@aol.com>
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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:17:23 -0000
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Subject: [asianamericanromance] New Member

 

I have just joined the group after Khwan announced it in her other group. I will probably not be very active at the start, I prefer to listen, learn what's going on and gain impressions of the active participants first.

Some basics, I am 57, retired from the US Navy, and spent time in Southeast Asia between 1975 and 1986 which, I confess, left me with an appreciation of Asian ladies and probably had something to do with my present engagement to an Asian-American lady.

I'm looking forward to the activities and discussions in the group.

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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: New Member



I'm about to wrap up for the night, but I will try to post some more detail tomorrow.  Is there anything in particular you would like to know?
 
John S
 
In a message dated 6/10/2010 10:47:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, khwan@khwan.com writes:
Hi John:

Thank you for joining and welcome to the Group.

Would you mind telling that Group a little more about your life and your future wife?



KHWAN

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "John S" <simanton@...> wrote:
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> I have just joined the group after Khwan announced it in her other group.  I will probably not be very active at the start, I prefer to listen, learn what's going on and gain impressions of the active participants first.
>
> Some basics, I am 57, retired from the US Navy, and spent time in Southeast Asia between 1975 and 1986 which, I confess, left me with an appreciation of Asian ladies and probably had something to do with my present engagement to an Asian-American lady.
>
> I'm looking forward to the activities and discussions in the group.
>
> John S.
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Re: [asianamericanromance] New Member



Welcome  John



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Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 10:17:23 PM
Subject: [asianamericanromance] New Member

 

I have just joined the group after Khwan announced it in her other group. I will probably not be very active at the start, I prefer to listen, learn what's going on and gain impressions of the active participants first.

Some basics, I am 57, retired from the US Navy, and spent time in Southeast Asia between 1975 and 1986 which, I confess, left me with an appreciation of Asian ladies and probably had something to do with my present engagement to an Asian-American lady.

I'm looking forward to the activities and discussions in the group.

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[asianamericanromance] Re: New Member

Hi John:

Thank you for joining and welcome to the Group.

Would you mind telling that Group a little more about your life and your future wife?

KHWAN

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "John S" <simanton@...> wrote:
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> I have just joined the group after Khwan announced it in her other group. I will probably not be very active at the start, I prefer to listen, learn what's going on and gain impressions of the active participants first.
>
> Some basics, I am 57, retired from the US Navy, and spent time in Southeast Asia between 1975 and 1986 which, I confess, left me with an appreciation of Asian ladies and probably had something to do with my present engagement to an Asian-American lady.
>
> I'm looking forward to the activities and discussions in the group.
>
> John S.
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[asianamericanromance] New Member

I have just joined the group after Khwan announced it in her other group. I will probably not be very active at the start, I prefer to listen, learn what's going on and gain impressions of the active participants first.

Some basics, I am 57, retired from the US Navy, and spent time in Southeast Asia between 1975 and 1986 which, I confess, left me with an appreciation of Asian ladies and probably had something to do with my present engagement to an Asian-American lady.

I'm looking forward to the activities and discussions in the group.

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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby



you are right


From: Rose <pinkiee.roses@gmail.com>
To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 5:27:58 PM
Subject: Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

 

Hi,

Been watching this group lately and well -sorry- I said at least now this group alive. In all the yahoo groups I join, there will always be passive members and tend to hide behind the scene. But past few days, this group started to 'alive' even with cynical comments.

I am just an ordinary person, am not an american, am not thai also - even tho I wish to be one coz I find most of thai ladies are really pretty- and I join this group in hope of finding friennds :)

Sharon got every rights to say what she wants in a man whom she wants to be her husband. And who we are have a right to judge other people wants, other people dreams ? Each people has their own dream and needs, and its up to them how they want it. Its a free world.

And just like all the girls in the world, maybe including me :p, wants to have better husband, better future. Especially once we enter marriage life, its not about man and woman only but also goot kids to think about. Isn't it better oif we can see all from the bright side instead of the dark side ?

Its just my 2cents :)
Hope this group will become the best group :)

Cheers
Rose

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From: "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@ yahoo.com>
Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:56:50 -0000
To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
ReplyTo: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby

 

Hi Mike,

(1)You said you are married but you browsed on this website and even involved your son to course together with you on here.

(2)You rephrase our words into a bad side.

(3)I have never lived in English speaking countries, that's why I am not familiar with English.

(4)I think the group offer a cool channcel for free expression n that's why our post is on here.

Sharon

--- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@.. .> wrote:
>
> fuck off Steve you wuss
>  
> For the record, this is my last post-, but let me give a history for the new joiners to this thread who seem not to have been paying attention to the start of it.
>  
> 1) someone named Sharon sent an email posting herself available for a man with $2million USD
>  
> 2) MANY (!!!) people  replied that she was offering herself for sale like a whore, others suggesting she was too old to be worth that kind of money, over the hill, christmas cake (?).  etc.etc.. 
>  
> 3) Sharon replied many times again, in language that seemed to indicate she was not very familiar with english language and/or culture
>  
> 4) I THEN TRIED TO DEFEND Sharon - suggesting that she be given the benefit of the doubt (this is after all a site to discuss asian-american romance and the difference in culture that may arise) 
>  
> 5) Khwan replied that I was wrong and revealed her thoughts about american men being fat ugly and old, and looking for young sexy asian because they cannot find it at home, and also that men want a maid servant and baby factory.  Khwan also said that since men 'make a list' of things, it was OK for Sharon to make demands too.
>  
> 6) I replied that her comment was pretty cynical (for the moderator of a group) and she revealed a little more of her thoughts about amercian men then she might have wanted to (being the moderator of the group here)
>  
> 7) Khwan, missing the boat ENTIRELY, replied in a rude and demeaning manner and even brought my children into the discussion
>  
> 8) I caller her a bitch for her bitchiness (and dont forget- we now also know what the MODERATOR of the group thinks about fat, old, ugly american men)
>  
> 9) other people chimed in with their name calling
>  
> This group is NOT well led, and the members are prone to knee-jerk name calling and insulting behavior.
>  
> So... please some one either remove my name from this group or tell me how I do it.
>  
>  
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@ ...>
> Subject: Re: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:39 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> Khwan
>  
> From another man, I truely support your thoughts. This dud appears to be a real jerk.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Khwan <khwan@khwan. com>
> To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 8:15:10 PM
> Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>
>  
>
> What a sad little man you must really be.
>
> As soon as a woman says something you do not agree with you call them whores and bitches.
>
> Is this how your mother raised you to treat women?
>
> No need to post a reply. This Group has had enough disrespect and name calling from you.
>
> Consider yourself not welcome to post here any more in the future until you learn to respect women.
>
> KHWAN
>
> --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@ .> wrote:
> >
> > wow- what a bitch you are
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:43 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > I fear that it is you who revealed more about yourself than you think.
> >
> > I NEVER called ALL men who go to Asia "fat, ugly, poor, slobs". Maybe you see yourself as that and see my words as reflection of poor self-image? I said that many men who not considered attractive or older in USA go to Asia to find younger girlfriends and wives. The reason is simple-they not want older and less attractive women in the USA. This is the reason why so many people here prejudice over lady older than 30 years old-and this criticism coming from men 45-60 years old.
> >
> > As for revealing yourself more-I think any man who calls a woman he never met a "whore" has no respect for women in general. And the type of man who has this little respect is exactly the kind of man that sadly often looks to women of other countries for a relationship. Maybe you think it OK to call women whores because you not agree with them-I do not. It is rude and shows lack of education and manners and respect.
> >
> > Again. I not say this is for ALL men. But I think most women would have little to do with a man who disrepects women like you have.
> >
> > KHWAN
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > >
> > > your opion that all the men who went to asia are fat ugly poor slobs is the cynical part
> > >  
> > > the idiots who posted that she was over 30 were stupid too.
> > >  
> > > They revealed themselves for the idiots they are, but she started out by coming on as a gold digging whore
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 5:44 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What part I say is cynical? It is true. MANY older men in the West (USA) go to Asia to find younger girls.
> > >
> > > Look at the posts here for the last few days.
> > >
> > > EVERY man who posted against Shannon was over 45. And yet they were critical of her because she was over 30. Spoiled milk someone called her.
> > >
> > > Is that not double standard?
> > >
> > > I not say this 100% of the men who are in relationships with Asian woman. But if you not think it common-I think your eyes are closed.
> > >
> > > KHWAN
> > >
> > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > wow- i think you might have revealed a little more about your cynical attitude toward american man than you might have intended
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 4:15 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > SHE STARTED IT!ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok now that we have received a few more responses from her it is starting to seem more like a cultural difference
> > > > >
> > > > > In this country expressing how much assets you demand of your furutre husband is not going to go over very big.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  It makes you sound like you have a price tag for your 'services' and we know what that is called (prostitution)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I understand this point of view.
> > > >
> > > > At same time-I understand her point of view. Men so many times look to Asia for girlfriends and wives because they not can find same in their country.
> > > >
> > > > They have big long list of what they want:
> > > >
> > > > Young. Pretty. Work hard like maid to take care of house.
> > > >
> > > > Give husband children or take care of children husband have.
> > > >
> > > > And these lists come from older men who are overweight and not attractive or not have good jobs. These men not can find sexy young girls in USA that want to date them. So they think that they can find that in Asia.
> > > >
> > > > So if men have list of what they want-what is wrong with women have same list?
> > > >
> > > > > And I wonder if you understand the value of $2million USD- it is less than 1% of the population that has that kind of money (that would be considered very very rich)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is still 3,000,000 people. So it not impossible to find.
> > > >
> > > > And again. I go back to what I say before. Why is this bad when men have long list of what they want in Asia girl-a list that they could never find in the USA?
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > > > One potential girl friend I met told me her family expected me to pay them $1million USD for marriage to her.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  I had to explain to them that it was the same as 40million tb - when they really only meant $5,000 usd (but hiked it up higher, because they think all americans are rich)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are not all American's rich?
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > Or I should say most much more rich than Thai families.
> > > >
> > > > > But people in USA RARELY talk in terms of millions of USD. That is still one hell of a lot of money
> > > > >
> > > > > For example- a nice house can be purchased for $100,000.castle (like the one I own) can be purchased for $450,000.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Los Angeles it almost impossible to find little house in not great neighborhood for less than $450,000.
> > > >
> > > > I think for $100,000 you can lease a nice parking space.
> > > >
> > > > > Some areas of the country had homes approcahcing 700K to $1million but those over-inflated price days are long gone- wiped out in the real estate crash last year.
> > > >
> > > > Again. Not in California.
> > > >
> > > > KHWAN
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby



Well said !!


From: xve298 <xve298@yahoo.com>
To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 5:33:51 PM
Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

 

I like many have heard this same foolish argument. There is nothing wrong with asking for what will make you happy. Yes many have had their retirement in advance of when they wished and the money that was promised is gone.
But why characterize them as losers? That just keeps pushing the buttons. Everyone wants a Bigger Better Deal whether buying food or getting a GF or mate.
If a person wants to have a multimillionaire for a husband she has that right. If a man rather look outside the US for his GF/Mate he too has that right. Many people are retiring outside the US as their money goes further. Yes socializing is more difficult as one gets older in the US society. For both sexes.

One very important point. Not everyplace has the same values as the US. Everyone is not like you.

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ms Black,
>
> I agree with you.
>
> Sharon
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "ms_black_001" <Ms_Black_001@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm wondering if the few other females on this list are as sick as I
> > am, of this sort of hostile, disrespectful attitude, on this list, which
> > comes up often.
> >
> > In this instance, several of you don't approve of a woman asking for
> > a man with lots of money. Does that excuse each of you from any sort of
> > bad behaviour of your own, in how you speak to her? Telling her to go
> > stand on a street corner and comparing her to a "Christmas cake" or
> > an old car? The name-calling posts are beneath even addressing.
> >
> > Disrespect toward each other's political opinions, and toward other
> > cultures, that's all bad enough, especially on this list,
> > considering the theme, here! But disrespect toward women, in a group
> > about love? Being so anxious to say hostile things to a woman and put
> > her "in her place," doesn't improve your own appeal any, to
> > other women who sense your anger and resentment, so easily tapped.
> >
> > I see many males here pleased to talk in very practical, blunt terms,
> > regarding why they're looking for an Asian female, specifically, and
> > maybe one who's not already an American citizen. They're
> > aren't shy to say they think she'll be more physically
> > attractive, more submissive, less demanding, have a more traditional
> > role in the relationship, that an older guy can find a younger, more
> > attractive girl overseas, where they can leverage their American
> > citizenship, and their U.S. dollars, which may not look like so much in
> > the U.S..
> >
> > I don't see anyone dogpiling men who talk like this, to say that
> > they shouldn't be so shallow and practical and cold-heartedly
> > calculating, in choosing a mate. What's the difference between that
> > and a woman who says, I want a man who has a certain level of security
> > and material luxury in his lifestyle? You've got your practical
> > terms, she's got hers.
> >
> > To quote from a certain movie,
> >
> > "Aren't you funny? Don't you know that a rich man is like a pretty
> > girl?
> >
> > You don't marry her just because she's pretty. But, my goodness,
> > doesn't it help?
> >
> > And would you want your daughter to marry a poor man? You'd want her to
> > have the most wonderful things in the world.
> >
> > Why is it wrong for *me* to want those things?"
> >
> > If you disapprove because you want a relationship to be all about love,
> > and you're promoting higher values, such as love, goodness, kindness,
> > and respect, you've got a funny way of showing it! Is this how you take
> > the high road, by speaking disrespectfully and taking joy in insulting a
> > woman?!
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon"
> > <lin.sharon123@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Walter,
> > >
> > > You funny too.
> > >
> > > Coz you lingering on here as well.
> > >
> > > Dream Dream Dream
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Sharon
> > >
> > > --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, Walter Schmidt
> > bigtexwalter@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sharon, you funny lady!
> > > > ?
> > > > Dream Dream Dream
> > > >
> >
>




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Re: [asianamericanromance] Fat, Old, Ugly American Men (and poor)



Not much discussion in this group..............just a bunch of 10 year olds name calling. 

--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Khwan <khwan@khwan.com> wrote:

From: Khwan <khwan@khwan.com>
Subject: [asianamericanromance] Fat, Old, Ugly American Men (and poor)
To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 5:19 PM

 


--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@...> wrote:
>
>
> 8) I caller her a bitch for her bitchiness (and dont forget- we now also know what the MODERATOR of the group thinks about fat, old, ugly american men)

First. I never called anyone fat, old or ugly. But I will be happy to reveal what I think of these traits.

Fat: Excercise. Lose weight. Get healthy. There is nothing good or healthy about be overweight and it lead to problems like diabetes and early death.

Old: No problems with old people. I LOVE old people. Some of my friends I met on Yahoo would be considered old. In Thailand (unlike in USA) we learn from young age to respect and honor old people. It about a state of mind and heart. But if you are 65 years old and you go to Asia to look for a 20 year old wife. I think this is a bad idea. You have nothing in common and will have problems in future.

Ugly: I think people can make effort to make them self look nice. You not have to be George Clooney. But you should take a bath. Brush your teeth. Comb your hair. Wear OK clothes. Etc. I said "unattractive" in my original post. Not ugly. I have seen many men who not want to make even this little bit effort to look presentable. Again. If you not can take care of being clean or yourself-do not expect others to feel differently about you.

Poor: Not everyone in the world is rich. For many women-money is important. Many woman-money is not important. I not rich. But I work hard. If I see someone who is lazy and not work hard-I not want to hear them complain they not rich or have no money. It sad-but I know of some Thai women who came to USA with promises from the husbands only to discover that the husbands were losers. No jobs or very little work. They not can support his wife like he promised (and remember-in this economy it hard for someone new to this country just to find a job) and the wife have to take very low pay work to support husband. Etc. And this is not because husband works hard and tries. It is because husband lazy and does not try.

And why so many men angry when they read a woman want man to have money? If you not like-go find new woman. I not going to be angry at men who like blonde hair. I not going to judge them.

KHWAN




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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re:The Sharon Debate



Agree with Mr. David here ...

The very basic thing in having a debate or discussion is to reali2 that everyone got a right to say what they want and that we have to honor their point of mind, and has to be able to state our mind in a polite and good manner.

There's always chances the debate will end up as an argument and spoiled most of the debaters :)

Guess we all learned from this Sharon's Debate

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From: david rogers <shagwaa1@yahoo.com>
Sender: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:27:05 -0700 (PDT)
To: <asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re:The Sharon Debate

 

Sharon's statement "My criterion in hubby" sparked off a healthy,lively and interesting debate. A good debate is very educational and enjoyable however once derogatory name calling began the debate was no longer healthy or educational and should have been terminated at that point. I hope everyone involved in future debate such as this can keep it in a mature and civil air, so everyone can enjoy.

Sharon this is your life and your choices alone......choose well and enjoy.......Hope you find what you looking for

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Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby



 agree with you my friend
I


From: Rose <pinkiee.roses@gmail.com>
To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 5:27:58 PM
Subject: Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

 

Hi,

Been watching this group lately and well -sorry- I said at least now this group alive. In all the yahoo groups I join, there will always be passive members and tend to hide behind the scene. But past few days, this group started to 'alive' even with cynical comments.

I am just an ordinary person, am not an american, am not thai also - even tho I wish to be one coz I find most of thai ladies are really pretty- and I join this group in hope of finding friennds :)

Sharon got every rights to say what she wants in a man whom she wants to be her husband. And who we are have a right to judge other people wants, other people dreams ? Each people has their own dream and needs, and its up to them how they want it. Its a free world.

And just like all the girls in the world, maybe including me :p, wants to have better husband, better future. Especially once we enter marriage life, its not about man and woman only but also goot kids to think about. Isn't it better oif we can see all from the bright side instead of the dark side ?

Its just my 2cents :)
Hope this group will become the best group :)

Cheers
Rose

Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
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From: "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@ yahoo.com>
Sender: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:56:50 -0000
To: <asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com>
ReplyTo: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby

 

Hi Mike,

(1)You said you are married but you browsed on this website and even involved your son to course together with you on here.

(2)You rephrase our words into a bad side.

(3)I have never lived in English speaking countries, that's why I am not familiar with English.

(4)I think the group offer a cool channcel for free expression n that's why our post is on here.

Sharon

--- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@.. .> wrote:
>
> fuck off Steve you wuss
>  
> For the record, this is my last post-, but let me give a history for the new joiners to this thread who seem not to have been paying attention to the start of it.
>  
> 1) someone named Sharon sent an email posting herself available for a man with $2million USD
>  
> 2) MANY (!!!) people  replied that she was offering herself for sale like a whore, others suggesting she was too old to be worth that kind of money, over the hill, christmas cake (?).  etc.etc.. 
>  
> 3) Sharon replied many times again, in language that seemed to indicate she was not very familiar with english language and/or culture
>  
> 4) I THEN TRIED TO DEFEND Sharon - suggesting that she be given the benefit of the doubt (this is after all a site to discuss asian-american romance and the difference in culture that may arise) 
>  
> 5) Khwan replied that I was wrong and revealed her thoughts about american men being fat ugly and old, and looking for young sexy asian because they cannot find it at home, and also that men want a maid servant and baby factory.  Khwan also said that since men 'make a list' of things, it was OK for Sharon to make demands too.
>  
> 6) I replied that her comment was pretty cynical (for the moderator of a group) and she revealed a little more of her thoughts about amercian men then she might have wanted to (being the moderator of the group here)
>  
> 7) Khwan, missing the boat ENTIRELY, replied in a rude and demeaning manner and even brought my children into the discussion
>  
> 8) I caller her a bitch for her bitchiness (and dont forget- we now also know what the MODERATOR of the group thinks about fat, old, ugly american men)
>  
> 9) other people chimed in with their name calling
>  
> This group is NOT well led, and the members are prone to knee-jerk name calling and insulting behavior.
>  
> So... please some one either remove my name from this group or tell me how I do it.
>  
>  
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@ ...>
> Subject: Re: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:39 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> Khwan
>  
> From another man, I truely support your thoughts. This dud appears to be a real jerk.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Khwan <khwan@khwan. com>
> To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 8:15:10 PM
> Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>
>  
>
> What a sad little man you must really be.
>
> As soon as a woman says something you do not agree with you call them whores and bitches.
>
> Is this how your mother raised you to treat women?
>
> No need to post a reply. This Group has had enough disrespect and name calling from you.
>
> Consider yourself not welcome to post here any more in the future until you learn to respect women.
>
> KHWAN
>
> --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@ .> wrote:
> >
> > wow- what a bitch you are
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:43 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > I fear that it is you who revealed more about yourself than you think.
> >
> > I NEVER called ALL men who go to Asia "fat, ugly, poor, slobs". Maybe you see yourself as that and see my words as reflection of poor self-image? I said that many men who not considered attractive or older in USA go to Asia to find younger girlfriends and wives. The reason is simple-they not want older and less attractive women in the USA. This is the reason why so many people here prejudice over lady older than 30 years old-and this criticism coming from men 45-60 years old.
> >
> > As for revealing yourself more-I think any man who calls a woman he never met a "whore" has no respect for women in general. And the type of man who has this little respect is exactly the kind of man that sadly often looks to women of other countries for a relationship. Maybe you think it OK to call women whores because you not agree with them-I do not. It is rude and shows lack of education and manners and respect.
> >
> > Again. I not say this is for ALL men. But I think most women would have little to do with a man who disrepects women like you have.
> >
> > KHWAN
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > >
> > > your opion that all the men who went to asia are fat ugly poor slobs is the cynical part
> > >  
> > > the idiots who posted that she was over 30 were stupid too.
> > >  
> > > They revealed themselves for the idiots they are, but she started out by coming on as a gold digging whore
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 5:44 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What part I say is cynical? It is true. MANY older men in the West (USA) go to Asia to find younger girls.
> > >
> > > Look at the posts here for the last few days.
> > >
> > > EVERY man who posted against Shannon was over 45. And yet they were critical of her because she was over 30. Spoiled milk someone called her.
> > >
> > > Is that not double standard?
> > >
> > > I not say this 100% of the men who are in relationships with Asian woman. But if you not think it common-I think your eyes are closed.
> > >
> > > KHWAN
> > >
> > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > wow- i think you might have revealed a little more about your cynical attitude toward american man than you might have intended
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 4:15 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > SHE STARTED IT!ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok now that we have received a few more responses from her it is starting to seem more like a cultural difference
> > > > >
> > > > > In this country expressing how much assets you demand of your furutre husband is not going to go over very big.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  It makes you sound like you have a price tag for your 'services' and we know what that is called (prostitution)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I understand this point of view.
> > > >
> > > > At same time-I understand her point of view. Men so many times look to Asia for girlfriends and wives because they not can find same in their country.
> > > >
> > > > They have big long list of what they want:
> > > >
> > > > Young. Pretty. Work hard like maid to take care of house.
> > > >
> > > > Give husband children or take care of children husband have.
> > > >
> > > > And these lists come from older men who are overweight and not attractive or not have good jobs. These men not can find sexy young girls in USA that want to date them. So they think that they can find that in Asia.
> > > >
> > > > So if men have list of what they want-what is wrong with women have same list?
> > > >
> > > > > And I wonder if you understand the value of $2million USD- it is less than 1% of the population that has that kind of money (that would be considered very very rich)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is still 3,000,000 people. So it not impossible to find.
> > > >
> > > > And again. I go back to what I say before. Why is this bad when men have long list of what they want in Asia girl-a list that they could never find in the USA?
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > > > One potential girl friend I met told me her family expected me to pay them $1million USD for marriage to her.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  I had to explain to them that it was the same as 40million tb - when they really only meant $5,000 usd (but hiked it up higher, because they think all americans are rich)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are not all American's rich?
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > Or I should say most much more rich than Thai families.
> > > >
> > > > > But people in USA RARELY talk in terms of millions of USD. That is still one hell of a lot of money
> > > > >
> > > > > For example- a nice house can be purchased for $100,000.castle (like the one I own) can be purchased for $450,000.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Los Angeles it almost impossible to find little house in not great neighborhood for less than $450,000.
> > > >
> > > > I think for $100,000 you can lease a nice parking space.
> > > >
> > > > > Some areas of the country had homes approcahcing 700K to $1million but those over-inflated price days are long gone- wiped out in the real estate crash last year.
> > > >
> > > > Again. Not in California.
> > > >
> > > > KHWAN
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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[asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

I like many have heard this same foolish argument. There is nothing wrong with asking for what will make you happy. Yes many have had their retirement in advance of when they wished and the money that was promised is gone.
But why characterize them as losers? That just keeps pushing the buttons. Everyone wants a Bigger Better Deal whether buying food or getting a GF or mate.
If a person wants to have a multimillionaire for a husband she has that right. If a man rather look outside the US for his GF/Mate he too has that right. Many people are retiring outside the US as their money goes further. Yes socializing is more difficult as one gets older in the US society. For both sexes.

One very important point. Not everyplace has the same values as the US. Everyone is not like you.

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ms Black,
>
> I agree with you.
>
> Sharon
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "ms_black_001" <Ms_Black_001@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm wondering if the few other females on this list are as sick as I
> > am, of this sort of hostile, disrespectful attitude, on this list, which
> > comes up often.
> >
> > In this instance, several of you don't approve of a woman asking for
> > a man with lots of money. Does that excuse each of you from any sort of
> > bad behaviour of your own, in how you speak to her? Telling her to go
> > stand on a street corner and comparing her to a "Christmas cake" or
> > an old car? The name-calling posts are beneath even addressing.
> >
> > Disrespect toward each other's political opinions, and toward other
> > cultures, that's all bad enough, especially on this list,
> > considering the theme, here! But disrespect toward women, in a group
> > about love? Being so anxious to say hostile things to a woman and put
> > her "in her place," doesn't improve your own appeal any, to
> > other women who sense your anger and resentment, so easily tapped.
> >
> > I see many males here pleased to talk in very practical, blunt terms,
> > regarding why they're looking for an Asian female, specifically, and
> > maybe one who's not already an American citizen. They're
> > aren't shy to say they think she'll be more physically
> > attractive, more submissive, less demanding, have a more traditional
> > role in the relationship, that an older guy can find a younger, more
> > attractive girl overseas, where they can leverage their American
> > citizenship, and their U.S. dollars, which may not look like so much in
> > the U.S..
> >
> > I don't see anyone dogpiling men who talk like this, to say that
> > they shouldn't be so shallow and practical and cold-heartedly
> > calculating, in choosing a mate. What's the difference between that
> > and a woman who says, I want a man who has a certain level of security
> > and material luxury in his lifestyle? You've got your practical
> > terms, she's got hers.
> >
> > To quote from a certain movie,
> >
> > "Aren't you funny? Don't you know that a rich man is like a pretty
> > girl?
> >
> > You don't marry her just because she's pretty. But, my goodness,
> > doesn't it help?
> >
> > And would you want your daughter to marry a poor man? You'd want her to
> > have the most wonderful things in the world.
> >
> > Why is it wrong for *me* to want those things?"
> >
> > If you disapprove because you want a relationship to be all about love,
> > and you're promoting higher values, such as love, goodness, kindness,
> > and respect, you've got a funny way of showing it! Is this how you take
> > the high road, by speaking disrespectfully and taking joy in insulting a
> > woman?!
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon"
> > <lin.sharon123@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Walter,
> > >
> > > You funny too.
> > >
> > > Coz you lingering on here as well.
> > >
> > > Dream Dream Dream
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Sharon
> > >
> > > --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, Walter Schmidt
> > bigtexwalter@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sharon, you funny lady!
> > > > ?
> > > > Dream Dream Dream
> > > >
> >
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[asianamericanromance] Re:The Sharon Debate



Sharon's statement "My criterion in hubby" sparked off a healthy,lively and interesting debate. A good debate is very educational and enjoyable however once derogatory name calling began the debate was no longer healthy or educational and should have been terminated at that point. I hope everyone involved in future debate such as this can keep it in a mature and civil air, so everyone can enjoy.

Sharon this is your life and your choices alone......choose well and enjoy.......Hope you find what you looking for

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Hi,

Been watching this group lately and well -sorry- I said at least now this group alive. In all the yahoo groups I join, there will always be passive members and tend to hide behind the scene. But past few days, this group started to 'alive' even with cynical comments.

I am just an ordinary person, am not an american, am not thai also - even tho I wish to be one coz I find most of thai ladies are really pretty- and I join this group in hope of finding friennds :)

Sharon got every rights to say what she wants in a man whom she wants to be her husband. And who we are have a right to judge other people wants, other people dreams ? Each people has their own dream and needs, and its up to them how they want it. Its a free world.

And just like all the girls in the world, maybe including me :p, wants to have better husband, better future. Especially once we enter marriage life, its not about man and woman only but also goot kids to think about. Isn't it better oif we can see all from the bright side instead of the dark side ?

Its just my 2cents :)
Hope this group will become the best group :)

Cheers
Rose

Happiness - To appreciate what we have and to be able to enjoy them
Sent with lots of best wishes and powered by Faith


From: "Sharon" <lin.sharon123@yahoo.com>
Sender: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:56:50 -0000
To: <asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby

 

Hi Mike,

(1)You said you are married but you browsed on this website and even involved your son to course together with you on here.

(2)You rephrase our words into a bad side.

(3)I have never lived in English speaking countries, that's why I am not familiar with English.

(4)I think the group offer a cool channcel for free expression n that's why our post is on here.

Sharon

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@...> wrote:
>
> fuck off Steve you wuss
>  
> For the record, this is my last post-, but let me give a history for the new joiners to this thread who seem not to have been paying attention to the start of it.
>  
> 1) someone named Sharon sent an email posting herself available for a man with $2million USD
>  
> 2) MANY (!!!) people  replied that she was offering herself for sale like a whore, others suggesting she was too old to be worth that kind of money, over the hill, christmas cake (?).  etc.etc.. 
>  
> 3) Sharon replied many times again, in language that seemed to indicate she was not very familiar with english language and/or culture
>  
> 4) I THEN TRIED TO DEFEND Sharon - suggesting that she be given the benefit of the doubt (this is after all a site to discuss asian-american romance and the difference in culture that may arise) 
>  
> 5) Khwan replied that I was wrong and revealed her thoughts about american men being fat ugly and old, and looking for young sexy asian because they cannot find it at home, and also that men want a maid servant and baby factory.  Khwan also said that since men 'make a list' of things, it was OK for Sharon to make demands too.
>  
> 6) I replied that her comment was pretty cynical (for the moderator of a group) and she revealed a little more of her thoughts about amercian men then she might have wanted to (being the moderator of the group here)
>  
> 7) Khwan, missing the boat ENTIRELY, replied in a rude and demeaning manner and even brought my children into the discussion
>  
> 8) I caller her a bitch for her bitchiness (and dont forget- we now also know what the MODERATOR of the group thinks about fat, old, ugly american men)
>  
> 9) other people chimed in with their name calling
>  
> This group is NOT well led, and the members are prone to knee-jerk name calling and insulting behavior.
>  
> So... please some one either remove my name from this group or tell me how I do it.
>  
>  
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Steve Goldade <stevegoldade@...>
> Subject: Re: [asianamericanromance] Re: My criterion in hubby
> To: asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 11:39 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> Khwan
>  
> From another man, I truely support your thoughts. This dud appears to be a real jerk.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Khwan <khwan@khwan. com>
> To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 8:15:10 PM
> Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
>
>  
>
> What a sad little man you must really be.
>
> As soon as a woman says something you do not agree with you call them whores and bitches.
>
> Is this how your mother raised you to treat women?
>
> No need to post a reply. This Group has had enough disrespect and name calling from you.
>
> Consider yourself not welcome to post here any more in the future until you learn to respect women.
>
> KHWAN
>
> --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@ .> wrote:
> >
> > wow- what a bitch you are
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:43 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike:
> >
> > I fear that it is you who revealed more about yourself than you think.
> >
> > I NEVER called ALL men who go to Asia "fat, ugly, poor, slobs". Maybe you see yourself as that and see my words as reflection of poor self-image? I said that many men who not considered attractive or older in USA go to Asia to find younger girlfriends and wives. The reason is simple-they not want older and less attractive women in the USA. This is the reason why so many people here prejudice over lady older than 30 years old-and this criticism coming from men 45-60 years old.
> >
> > As for revealing yourself more-I think any man who calls a woman he never met a "whore" has no respect for women in general. And the type of man who has this little respect is exactly the kind of man that sadly often looks to women of other countries for a relationship. Maybe you think it OK to call women whores because you not agree with them-I do not. It is rude and shows lack of education and manners and respect.
> >
> > Again. I not say this is for ALL men. But I think most women would have little to do with a man who disrepects women like you have.
> >
> > KHWAN
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > >
> > > your opion that all the men who went to asia are fat ugly poor slobs is the cynical part
> > >  
> > > the idiots who posted that she was over 30 were stupid too.
> > >  
> > > They revealed themselves for the idiots they are, but she started out by coming on as a gold digging whore
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 5:44 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What part I say is cynical? It is true. MANY older men in the West (USA) go to Asia to find younger girls.
> > >
> > > Look at the posts here for the last few days.
> > >
> > > EVERY man who posted against Shannon was over 45. And yet they were critical of her because she was over 30. Spoiled milk someone called her.
> > >
> > > Is that not double standard?
> > >
> > > I not say this 100% of the men who are in relationships with Asian woman. But if you not think it common-I think your eyes are closed.
> > >
> > > KHWAN
> > >
> > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > wow- i think you might have revealed a little more about your cynical attitude toward american man than you might have intended
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 6/9/10, Khwan <khwan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Khwan <khwan@>
> > > > Subject: [asianamericanroman ce] Re: My criterion in hubby
> > > > To: asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 4:15 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In asianamericanromanc e@yahoogroups. com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > SHE STARTED IT!ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok now that we have received a few more responses from her it is starting to seem more like a cultural difference
> > > > >
> > > > > In this country expressing how much assets you demand of your furutre husband is not going to go over very big.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  It makes you sound like you have a price tag for your 'services' and we know what that is called (prostitution)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I understand this point of view.
> > > >
> > > > At same time-I understand her point of view. Men so many times look to Asia for girlfriends and wives because they not can find same in their country.
> > > >
> > > > They have big long list of what they want:
> > > >
> > > > Young. Pretty. Work hard like maid to take care of house.
> > > >
> > > > Give husband children or take care of children husband have.
> > > >
> > > > And these lists come from older men who are overweight and not attractive or not have good jobs. These men not can find sexy young girls in USA that want to date them. So they think that they can find that in Asia.
> > > >
> > > > So if men have list of what they want-what is wrong with women have same list?
> > > >
> > > > > And I wonder if you understand the value of $2million USD- it is less than 1% of the population that has that kind of money (that would be considered very very rich)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is still 3,000,000 people. So it not impossible to find.
> > > >
> > > > And again. I go back to what I say before. Why is this bad when men have long list of what they want in Asia girl-a list that they could never find in the USA?
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > > > One potential girl friend I met told me her family expected me to pay them $1million USD for marriage to her.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  I had to explain to them that it was the same as 40million tb - when they really only meant $5,000 usd (but hiked it up higher, because they think all americans are rich)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are not all American's rich?
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > Or I should say most much more rich than Thai families.
> > > >
> > > > > But people in USA RARELY talk in terms of millions of USD. That is still one hell of a lot of money
> > > > >
> > > > > For example- a nice house can be purchased for $100,000.castle (like the one I own) can be purchased for $450,000.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Los Angeles it almost impossible to find little house in not great neighborhood for less than $450,000.
> > > >
> > > > I think for $100,000 you can lease a nice parking space.
> > > >
> > > > > Some areas of the country had homes approcahcing 700K to $1million but those over-inflated price days are long gone- wiped out in the real estate crash last year.
> > > >
> > > > Again. Not in California.
> > > >
> > > > KHWAN
> > > >
> > >
> >
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[asianamericanromance] Fat, Old, Ugly American Men (and poor)

--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, Mike Kosak <mwk_14059@...> wrote:
>
>
> 8) I caller her a bitch for her bitchiness (and dont forget- we now also know what the MODERATOR of the group thinks about fat, old, ugly american men)


First. I never called anyone fat, old or ugly. But I will be happy to reveal what I think of these traits.

Fat: Excercise. Lose weight. Get healthy. There is nothing good or healthy about be overweight and it lead to problems like diabetes and early death.

Old: No problems with old people. I LOVE old people. Some of my friends I met on Yahoo would be considered old. In Thailand (unlike in USA) we learn from young age to respect and honor old people. It about a state of mind and heart. But if you are 65 years old and you go to Asia to look for a 20 year old wife. I think this is a bad idea. You have nothing in common and will have problems in future.

Ugly: I think people can make effort to make them self look nice. You not have to be George Clooney. But you should take a bath. Brush your teeth. Comb your hair. Wear OK clothes. Etc. I said "unattractive" in my original post. Not ugly. I have seen many men who not want to make even this little bit effort to look presentable. Again. If you not can take care of being clean or yourself-do not expect others to feel differently about you.

Poor: Not everyone in the world is rich. For many women-money is important. Many woman-money is not important. I not rich. But I work hard. If I see someone who is lazy and not work hard-I not want to hear them complain they not rich or have no money. It sad-but I know of some Thai women who came to USA with promises from the husbands only to discover that the husbands were losers. No jobs or very little work. They not can support his wife like he promised (and remember-in this economy it hard for someone new to this country just to find a job) and the wife have to take very low pay work to support husband. Etc. And this is not because husband works hard and tries. It is because husband lazy and does not try.

And why so many men angry when they read a woman want man to have money? If you not like-go find new woman. I not going to be angry at men who like blonde hair. I not going to judge them.

KHWAN

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