You took many of the words right out of my mouth. There's a double standard here (and in the world) where some guys think its perfectly OK to act like pigs when it comes to women (classifying them to the lowest possible level-like property) but immediately go on the attack when they are confronted with a strong, independent woman who knows what she wants. And what she wants usually is not a pig-ish man.
Every time the question of why men are attracted to Asian women, the same answers come up (the ones you listed). Some say list cultural differences or personal preferences in terms of looks (nothing wrong with that), but usually it comes down to "LBFM" (a military term "Little Brown Fuck Machines"). To deny that the majority of men who seek Asian women overseas falls under that catagory is to be naive or simply ignorant.
I wonder if there's ever been a study of the age diffences between the husband and wife for marriages overseas?
The latest round of insults here does not really surprise me. Have you met many ex-pats in Asia? They are, for the most part, just like this. Losers who have to prove themselves by insulting others.
I forgot who it was who said that he lived in a $100,000 home. That says it all. According to the US Census, the average cost of a home in the US is $270,900. So you have to figure that this guy lives in shack with an outhouse (if that). That is why he is defensive. That is why he is so quick to call women golddiggers and whores. He has no money. He probably doesn't make enough money to even pass the requirments for a fiance visa. A $450,000 castle? How much do you want to bet that his definition of "castle" is any place with running water?
You asked, "What's the difference between that and a woman who says, I want a man who has a certain level of security and material luxury in his lifestyle?" And I say, there is no diffence. That's not to say that its a good thing, but its the real world. What these guys are angry about is that foreign women are wising up to the value of money and security in a husband. In the past, these low-incomers could go to another country and wave a US Visa in front of a girl, and that might have been enough. But no more. And they are resentful of that.
The bottom line is: no one wants to marry a loser. And if you can't support a family with your income, you're a loser. A wife wants to be a mother. And most mothers want to provide the best for their children. When the best that a potential daddy can provide is a $100,000 shack, hand-me-down shoes and clothes and a community college education, they will (rightfully) look elsewhere.
If these guys want a trophy wife, they should earn it. Get a good job, save their money, be a productive "catch" and maybe then they will be able to get the girl of their dreams.
Imtiaz Ahmed
--- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "ms_black_001" <Ms_Black_001@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm wondering if the few other females on this list are as sick as I
> am, of this sort of hostile, disrespectful attitude, on this list, which
> comes up often.
>
> In this instance, several of you don't approve of a woman asking for
> a man with lots of money. Does that excuse each of you from any sort of
> bad behaviour of your own, in how you speak to her? Telling her to go
> stand on a street corner and comparing her to a "Christmas cake" or
> an old car? The name-calling posts are beneath even addressing.
>
> Disrespect toward each other's political opinions, and toward other
> cultures, that's all bad enough, especially on this list,
> considering the theme, here! But disrespect toward women, in a group
> about love? Being so anxious to say hostile things to a woman and put
> her "in her place," doesn't improve your own appeal any, to
> other women who sense your anger and resentment, so easily tapped.
>
> I see many males here pleased to talk in very practical, blunt terms,
> regarding why they're looking for an Asian female, specifically, and
> maybe one who's not already an American citizen. They're
> aren't shy to say they think she'll be more physically
> attractive, more submissive, less demanding, have a more traditional
> role in the relationship, that an older guy can find a younger, more
> attractive girl overseas, where they can leverage their American
> citizenship, and their U.S. dollars, which may not look like so much in
> the U.S..
>
> I don't see anyone dogpiling men who talk like this, to say that
> they shouldn't be so shallow and practical and cold-heartedly
> calculating, in choosing a mate. What's the difference between that
> and a woman who says, I want a man who has a certain level of security
> and material luxury in his lifestyle? You've got your practical
> terms, she's got hers.
>
> To quote from a certain movie,
>
> "Aren't you funny? Don't you know that a rich man is like a pretty
> girl?
>
> You don't marry her just because she's pretty. But, my goodness,
> doesn't it help?
>
> And would you want your daughter to marry a poor man? You'd want her to
> have the most wonderful things in the world.
>
> Why is it wrong for *me* to want those things?"
>
> If you disapprove because you want a relationship to be all about love,
> and you're promoting higher values, such as love, goodness, kindness,
> and respect, you've got a funny way of showing it! Is this how you take
> the high road, by speaking disrespectfully and taking joy in insulting a
> woman?!
>
>
>
> --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon"
> <lin.sharon123@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Walter,
> >
> > You funny too.
> >
> > Coz you lingering on here as well.
> >
> > Dream Dream Dream
> >
> > cheers,
> > Sharon
> >
> > --- In asianamericanromance@yahoogroups.com, Walter Schmidt
> bigtexwalter@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Sharon, you funny lady!
> > > ?
> > > Dream Dream Dream
> > >
>
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